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Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 21-Feb-25 08:30:34
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Re: CAT5e Routing


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Good Morning,

Apologies for the length of time since my post and this reply.

Thank you to everyone who replied and made suggestions and observations on what to do and what not to do. Apologies for the length of the next bit.

I have made some changes to my plans, and as chance would have it I am in a position to go ahead with some electrical work (that has been outstanding for a while) and the Electrician I am using is happy to run some Cat5e or Cat6 cabling into the living room but via the ceiling (as I have solid wood/laminate flooring and I don't want to have to have it taken up and then put back down again).

I will have two runs (1 to a socket mid way up a wall for a TV to be wall mounted) along with a 2 gang electric socket and an aerial point, and one at ground level on the same wall.

Now I need to decide 1 of 2 options regarding the placement of the new ONT when Openreach come to install it. I am trying to think of the future and if I was to sell the property would be be better.

A: I have it installed where the existing FTTC/PSTN line enters the property on the other side of my living room, then have a length of Cat5e/Cat6 run externally (via the front of the house) into the "office" room and terminate it next to the two runs of internal cable back into the living room. I can connect the ONT to the Router via this external cable.

B: Have the ONT Installed in the "office" room, eliminating the need for the external network cable, but resulting in the ONT being installed into a spare bedroom, which maybe used as such by a new owner should I ever sell this property.

What would you do?

Thanks

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 21-Feb-25 09:31:09
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Re: CAT5e Routing


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just an aside, if the bedrom/office is not ground floor. The fibre cable if dropped from the eves, will go down to ground level into a csp and then back up the wall to the bedroom/office.

if you can get a draw string into the trunking/condiult is for the internal fibre to thru that up to the office and place the ont there.
Standard User DFScale
(committed) Fri 21-Feb-25 09:43:55
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From the resale point of view, putting the ONT in the 'wrong place' shouldn't be a show stopper, because it can be moved.


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Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 21-Feb-25 09:45:18
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Re: CAT5e Routing


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In reply to a post by Taras:
just an aside, if the bedrom/office is not ground floor. The fibre cable if dropped from the eves, will go down to ground level into a csp and then back up the wall to the bedroom/office.

if you can get a draw string into the trunking/condiult is for the internal fibre to thru that up to the office and place the ont there.


Hi Taras,

So Openreach will install the CSP at ground level, and if I wanted the ONT higher up would they not run the cable along the front of my house and drill into my spare bedroom/office?

There is no way to go internally from the location of the current PSTN line (which is where I’d assume they would locate the ONT) to my spare room/office.

Thanks

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 21-Feb-25 09:46:14
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In reply to a post by DFScale:
From the resale point of view, putting the ONT in the 'wrong place' shouldn't be a show stopper, because it can be moved.


Thanks for the info DFScale

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User Adduxi
(member) Fri 21-Feb-25 09:49:43
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Re: CAT5e Routing


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In reply to a post by Taras:
just an aside, if the bedrom/office is not ground floor. The fibre cable if dropped from the eves, will go down to ground level into a csp and then back up the wall to the bedroom/office.
<snip>

This. I have done similar, in that not wanting an ethernet cable routed indoors, I did this external run of ethernet up to the eves and into a roofspace for a family member. Mostly hidden behind a downspout for aesthetics. I'm thinking the OP could do the same from the ONT up and into the roofspace/bedroom.
Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 21-Feb-25 10:07:22
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In reply to a post by Adduxi:
This. I have done similar, in that not wanting an ethernet cable routed indoors, I did this external run of ethernet up to the eves and into a roofspace for a family member. Mostly hidden behind a downspout for aesthetics. I'm thinking the OP could do the same from the ONT up and into the roofspace/bedroom.


Hi Adduxi,

Out of interest did you use external grade Cat5e or Cat6 cable?

Thanks

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 21-Feb-25 10:17:57
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In reply to a post by CJT:
In reply to a post by Taras:
just an aside, if the bedrom/office is not ground floor. The fibre cable if dropped from the eves, will go down to ground level into a csp and then back up the wall to the bedroom/office.

if you can get a draw string into the trunking/condiult is for the internal fibre to thru that up to the office and place the ont there.


Hi Taras,

So Openreach will install the CSP at ground level, and if I wanted the ONT higher up would they not run the cable along the front of my house and drill into my spare bedroom/office?

Thanks


it depends on the engineer who comes along, if its an OR one the chances are that you will get what you want. If its kelly or mj quinn then hello roulette mode

the thing is you are going to be doing this

fibre

Down then up

Cat cable down from office/bedroom.

What kind of bandwidth do you need in the office compared to the living room?
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 21-Feb-25 14:29:56
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CSPs can be installed indoors - mine is. The "rule" seems to be - in a location where a ladder is not required for access.


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Standard User Adduxi
(member) Fri 21-Feb-25 15:16:21
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In reply to a post by CJT:
Hi Adduxi,

Out of interest did you use external grade Cat5e or Cat6 cable?

Thanks

From memory (its been a while) it definitely was external cable, and most likely Cat 6, and not CCA btw. It was a bit of a job, working outside up a ladder mind you smile But worth it really.

Edited by Adduxi (Fri 21-Feb-25 15:17:31)

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