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Standard User Adduxi
(member) Tue 01-Apr-25 18:03:19
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IPv6 Throughput and suggested routers?


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Hi all,
Currently with Draytek 2927 router and the throughput on IPv4 tests are very good due to Hardware Acceleration.
However ..... from IPv6 only testing sites the throughput drops to around 410 max and the CPU is >90%, so not good at all.
I had hoped to upgrade to 900/110 but this scuppered the deal, and I had to drop back to my existing 500/75. On this tier I wasn't aware of the problem as the difference between IP stacks wasn't that noticeable.

So, anyone out there who has IPv6 running in excess of 900Mb? Preferably Dual WAN load balancing if possible.
Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Apr-25 19:07:39
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Seems that IPv6 isn't hardware accelerated on this box. Others have found this issue too.

Are you looking for suggestions of alternative DrayTek routers or simply anything? The choice is wide, as you can imagine.

Edited by Pheasant (Tue 01-Apr-25 19:11:56)

Standard User Adduxi
(member) Wed 02-Apr-25 10:03:31
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Yes, the HA is not used for IPv6 and the CPU is slaughtered ...
As for type I'm not too concerned really, as long as it is reasonably simple to configure. I'm more interested in getting the maximum throughput on both IPv4 and IPv6 stacks.
I was a bit disappointed by the Draytek to be honest, as I've used several over the years and never had any issues. But I guess with the advent of >1Gb broadband circuits the game is changing.
Cheers


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Standard User DFScale
(committed) Wed 02-Apr-25 12:26:29
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In reply to a post by Adduxi:
I was a bit disappointed by the Draytek to be honest,


Yes, I would be greatly disappointed to buy an ipv6 capable router and discover that ipv4 was hardware accelerated but ipv6 was not. That to my mind is completely back to front, because ipv6 is the future and even now, using the ipvfoo browser add on, I think I am just about seeing majority ipv6 on my usage.
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(experienced) Wed 02-Apr-25 14:00:09
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In reply to a post by Adduxi:
So, anyone out there who has IPv6 running in excess of 900Mb? Preferably Dual WAN load balancing if possible.


Just a heads up load balancing can't work the same way with IPv6. Unless you've your own IP addresses the providers are routing to you or using NAT on the IPv6 you're going to have to use a tunnel. In failover mode the router would have to be able to respond to loss of one link by advertising the prefix from the other.
Standard User aidanh
(regular) Wed 02-Apr-25 18:11:25
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You can do NAT6 and only advertise a ULA of course the IPv6 purists will hate you for that because IPv6 was supposed to restore end-to-end connectivity. Multiple WANs throws a spanner in that works though unless you're big enough to have your own IP space.

Standard User Colinh58
(learned) Wed 02-Apr-25 18:29:55
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So, anyone out there who has IPv6 running in excess of 900Mb? Preferably Dual WAN load balancing if possible.


Yes I can get 1300-1600 on a Draytek 3912, using single WAN
I guess for the price of the 3912, it would be embarrassing if would not do that

Seems IPV6 not on today, comes and goes with EE strangely

EE 1.8Gb
Standard User Adduxi
(member) Thu 03-Apr-25 10:32:43
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3912 - Yes just a tad expensive for home use smile
I would have thought the throughput would have been higher, but it's better than 400Mb.
When my need for Dual WAN stops (maybe next year), I'll have another look at a faster single WAN non wireless router.
Hopefully by then IPv6 will be better serviced?
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Thu 03-Apr-25 16:27:31
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You could have a look at a Mikrotik RB5009 or similar.

It doesn't have "hardware assist" as such, but the quad-core ARM processor will cane a gigabit of traffic easily. In addition, there is a routing optimisation called "FastTrack", which basically means firewall rules are tested against the first packet of a flow only, and the remaining packets are shunted quickly using connection tracking. Originally FastTrack was only for IPv4, but it looks like the recent v7.18 added FastTrack support for IPv6 (see changelogs).

On an older Mikrotik hEX PoE, with a single slow MIPS core, I tested fasttrack versus non-fasttrack, and saw a 3x speed improvement with fasttrack enabled (from 300M to 900M).

Dual WAN load-balancing is a bit funky with Mikrotik: it requires some policy routing rules (flow marking) or equal-cost multipath. Again, this used to be something you could only do with IPv4; it could well now work with IPv6, but I've not tested it.

IMO, the main downside of Mikrotik is that there is no "long term support" branch of their v7 software, i.e. no "bug fixes only" branch. They're constantly adding new features, so if you upgrade to a newer version to fix problem X, you may also introduce unexpected problem Y. This is why my main router, RB4011, still runs v6. But the newer products like the RB5009 only support v7.

Aside: there are some models of Mikrotik which do full layer 3 hardware offloading. They are mostly switches though. There are a couple of high-end routers which support it, such as the CCR2116-12G-4S+ (RRP $995) but I suspect it doesn't work with PPPoE anyway.
Standard User Adduxi
(member) Sat 05-Apr-25 09:36:09
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Had a quick look at the Mikrotik range and they look to be good and for the performance, reasonably priced.. However the learning curve is a bit steep? Some nice videos on YouTube as well for beginners!
Hopefully at some point I'll not need Dual WAN so would be much easier all round.
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