vivaciti packages

Hi folks

Can anyone tell me the difference between these two vivaciti products?

http://www.vivaciti.net/product/1/home-internet/9/br...
http://www.vivaciti.net/product/1/home-internet/25/b...

One is listed as a premium package, and the other is listed under LLU services.

I'm assuming they are different networks perhaps?

Thank you.

The difference between the 2 products is that the first link refers to a BE Wholesale product & the second refers to a OPAL (Talk Talk Business) product.

If you can get the BE product it's a better option due to the adjust-ability it offers.

Hope this helps.

In reply to a post by spongebobhims:

The difference between the 2 products is that the first link refers to a BE Wholesale product & the second refers to a OPAL (Talk Talk Business) product.

If you can get the BE product it's a better option due to the adjust-ability it offers.

Hope this helps.

Exactly what I was looking for.

Thank you.

In reply to a post by pedantic:

Exactly what I was looking for.

Thank you.

And Me!

Thank you

Migration completed.

While on O2 I needed to have noise introduced to my line due to re-syncs.
This happened a couple of times, so my speed dropped from an initial 17Mbps to 15Mbps, for my line to be stable.

Strangely, while connected to Vivaciti, my SNR is happily sitting at 6db, and my speed is 19Mbps, which is higher than I've ever had while being on ADSL2+

So, a happy bunny here.

Thank you Vivaciti.

Good to hear things are good.

However!

Being pedantic, you are still on ADSL2+. Just not O2's.

Newer line card?

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Good to hear things are good.

However!

Being pedantic, you are still on ADSL2+. Just not O2's.

I know. I was making exactly that point. Maybe my post suggested otherwise?

In other words, why would things be different, if I'm basically on the the same thing.

I didn't think of playing around with word emphasis . Maybe a "since" or a "whilst" would have been clearer. A very risky nick you have .

Hmm....

I was under the impression I was signing up to an O2W product. It seems, if my traceroute is any thing to go by, I'm on an Enta product. Am I missing something?

Successful migration also.

In reply to a post by pedantic:

Hmm....

I was under the impression I was signing up to an O2W product. It seems, if my traceroute is any thing to go by, I'm on an Enta product. Am I missing something?

O2wholesale provide the llu kit at the exchange and the data link VLAN to the Wholesalers network handover point Unfortunately for some 02 don't seem to route to other locations than london, So in this case the wholsaler is entanet , they are responsible for peering ip adressing ect ect, they also have access via control pannel to the dslam so are able to change the configuration Vivaciti pays entanet just as several other Visp's ,Enta will probably provide different levels of service to different VISP's price being key, so some can offer lower contention ratio(accross the enta network) They i belive do suffer from their own peak time, wich is during office hours mainly from 10am through till 5pm peaking from 3-4pm high jitter levels possibly the first signs of congestion,

Edited by tommy45 (Thu 04-Apr-13 17:55:20)

In reply to a post by tommy45:

In reply to a post by pedantic:

Hmm....

I was under the impression I was signing up to an O2W product. It seems, if my traceroute is any thing to go by, I'm on an Enta product. Am I missing something?

O2wholesale provide the llu kit at the exchange and the data link VLAN to the Wholesalers network handover point Unfortunately for some 02 don't seem to route to other locations than london, So in this case the wholsaler is entanet , they are responsible for peering ip adressing ect ect, they also have access via control pannel to the dslam so are able to change the configuration Vivaciti pays entanet just as several other Visp's ,Enta will probably provide different levels of service to different VISP's price being key, so some can offer lower contention ratio(accross the enta network) They i belive do suffer from their own peak time, wich is during office hours mainly from 10am through till 5pm peaking from 3-4pm high jitter levels possibly the first signs of congestion,

Thank you for the explanation tommy45. Very thorough!