People's Fibre

We’ve installed over 40,000 metres of our full fibre cable in Braintree, which will be able to bring lightning-fast broadband to more than 20,000 homes and businesses.

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

whos network are they using

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tracert peoplesfibre.co.uk
 Tracing route to peoplesfibre.co.UK [76.76.21.21]
over a maximum of 30 hops: 
  1     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  homerouter.cpe [192.168.8.1]  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3   115 ms   100 ms   100 ms  172.21.147.65  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.  6    46 ms    36 ms    41 ms  172.21.153.81
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.  8    29 ms    42 ms    46 ms  172.21.128.82
  9    43 ms    38 ms    38 ms  99.82.178.147 10   115 ms    43 ms    36 ms  99.82.178.146
 11    74 ms   100 ms   102 ms  52.94.32.136 12   152 ms   101 ms   316 ms  54.239.100.83
 13   161 ms   308 ms    98 ms  54.239.45.231 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out. 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17   114 ms   100 ms   100 ms  150.222.65.24 18    73 ms   100 ms   100 ms  76.76.21.21
 Trace complete.

In reply to a post by pluralist:

I haven't checked the IP addresses on the route, but 76.76.21.21 looks to be Vercel Inc. in California.

Edited by jchamier (Sun 20-Jun-21 12:44:54)

In reply to a post by pluralist:

I believe you but don't see where your link mentions Cogent. As James says, the user's IP address would help, but needs to be by PM to one of us rather than posted in public.

Edited by jchamier (Sun 20-Jun-21 13:45:19)

Edited by jpm (Sun 20-Jun-21 22:45:51)

In reply to a post by vinnym70:

It seems locally that Gigaclear have been responsible for some significant roadworks.
I don't seem to recall People's Fibre doing the same - although there were a lot of roadworks at the junction noted 6/8 months ago.

I really don't know the difference of how their respective rollouts are progressing.

All I can offer as a comparison is that Gigaclear dug a trench to my parents house, seemingly for no reason other than to serve their property. Given they never expressed an interest in faster internet, all they have to show for this is some new tarmac over that trench. Conversely People's Fibre seem content using the existing (Openreach) ducts to deliver their fibre with minimal incursion.

In reply to a post by jpm:

At this point any new ISP starting up is going to have issues with getting IPv4 space. They need to be (preferably static) IPv6 from the start which at least goes some way to alleviating the issues with IPv4 CGNAT as far as voice calling and gaming is concerned.

Any ISP that is doing CGNAT and has no IPv6 deployed needs to figure out what their strategy is, and hire people who understand v6 to get it rolled out.

4.14 IP Address. People’s Fibre supplies the use of IP addresses to its customers and People’s Fibre owns these IP addresses. Home and Business Broadband Services uses Carrier Grade NAT (CGN) (RFC6598) but can if needed get a public ipv4 through DHCP (for a monthly charge). Business Broadband Services can also order static IPv4 addresses separately. Price for static IPv4 address can be found in the price sheet. We reserve the right to recall our IP addresses after the term of the Agreement has finished. We will give 90 days notice to the customer in this instance.

Public IPV4 Address

Due to the shortage of IPv4 addresses, we use Carrier Grade Nat (CGN) which allows for more efficient use of our IPv4 address range. This means that each time you access an IPv4 website, our network seamlessly allocates you a dynamic, rather than static, IP address from our pool of public addresses, with no disruption to service. This has no impact on the security of your connection – it’s simply about how we manage the allocation of our available IP addresses.

There are, however, some applications that may be affected by this. These include applications such as online gaming, VPNs, P2P applications and hosting at homes. If you do notice any issues and would like to transfer to a public IPv4 via DHCP for £5 a month, please contact our Customer Service team who will be happy to assist.

Edited by jpm (Wed 29-Dec-21 17:10:52)

In reply to a post by jpm:

With another six months to a year of cashflow they would probably have made it.

In reply to a post by vinnym70:

My major reason for moving was to stop paying for the traditional line rental that services reliant on Openreach can't detach themselves from.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In reply to a post by jpm:

With another six months to a year of cashflow they would probably have made it.

I'm not so sure about that.

Even taking the above in to consideration (people in contracts etc), 150 active subscribers from over 5000 properties passed is shockingly low.
That's under 3% take up

In reply to a post by vinnym70:

For me, an alternative provider just selling FTTP makes life a lot easier. A basic VoIP provider does all I need to replace my copper voice line and costs nothing bar the number porting costs.

Edited by j0hn83 (Fri 31-Dec-21 23:08:39)