In reply to a post by PaulG:

I would suggest that the offer of 250MB of web space would to 99.9% of people mean 250MB for their web site. If it had said 250MB of server space then that might have been fine but it didn't...... it was pretty specific. I've never heard of email storage being described as "web space".

I'll second that.
I've had various websites over the years and never associated my "web space" with my email account.
Web space to me is where you store web pages and any associated files. Email SHOULD be a completely separate entity.
If they are combined it should be advertised as SERVER space.
Just my opinion.

In reply to a post by BillyUK:

I'll second that.
I've had various websites over the years and never associated my "web space" with my email account.
Web space to me is where you store web pages and any associated files. Email SHOULD be a completely separate entity.
If they are combined it should be advertised as SERVER space.
Just my opinion.

Who do you use to host your website and email? Do you have cPanel and have you ever checked what is using what? Or have you just assumed they were separate, as I mistakenly did.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 12-Mar-12 12:37:05)

I'll just add to this a hypothetical situation which demonstrates why I find combining "web space" and "mail space" bizarre.

Let's say you have a site that allows users to upload files (photos, for sake of argument). Users are uploading fine, and your site is using well below the "web space" limits defined for it, until - bang, someone spams your mail box, or sends you a 10Mb file, which just happens to fit into the remaining 10Mb of space you had left for the website, and were expecting to use for storing image uploads. Until you fetch or delete this email, it then blocks users from uploading any further images.

So we have a situation where the website breaks because of circumstances outwith your control, and because the space for these two services was not independently defined.

I hope this now demonstrates to people why I find the linking of the two... bizarre.

I use TSOhost these days but just for email, haven't bothered setting up a new website but I have set up a wee one with Wix.com but that was just for fun.
I just assumed they were separate and have done for years
My websites were always quite basic and never near the space I received so it was probably never going to show up as reaching it's limit. But like you I didn't see any correlation between Web space and email space and from what I remember when using FTP and the likes I had the space I thought I should have for my website and there was never any sign of email space. So I think our assumptions WERE correct in the past but looks like SOME ISP's changed the goal posts without telling

In reply to a post by mixt:

I hope this now demonstrates to people why I find the linking of the two... bizarre.

Bizarre... but very much standard within the control panels offered on the market. The only one that I can think of that did offer separate email "allowance" was H-Sphere, which was acquired by Parallels many years ago and neglected. Even if they are split, there are some hosts that count the combined usage of website files and emails for your single allowance of "web space".

The mass market of hosting means that most hosts use an industry standard control panel like cPanel or Plesk, where the norm is one allowance for both, to which it can be referred to as "web space", which was the term we used.

Matt

I wouldn't have included emails in web space. My definition is space in which to host a web site. Email is something that is totally different.

Not if using cPanel.

10 years or so ago and before cpanel etc became common place webspace was probably separate from email storage.
Although not running a website I had always thought of them as separate allowances , however I am happy to be corrected and the single allowance does seem perfectly logical once it is explained.

It is good to hear that Uno are making efforts to clarify the situation, it is not easy writing definitions etc which are clear to newbies and provide the full information for the "oldies".

In reply to a post by Sandgrounder:

It seems a bit obvious to me, as being 250MB of space on the web. No matter what protocol you use to access it (http, https, ftp, email, etc) and whatever you use it for (website pages, file backup, email, photos, etc)

By definition only HTTP protocols pertain to the " web".

E-mail, Usenet, Bittorrent, $whatever: they all operate over the Internet. Certainly there are some web interfaces to some of those services, but the web itself is an equal peer of e-mail on the Internet.

If you turned-off all the World's web servers today, e-mail would still happily flow along.

So we are really talking about Internet Space!