Hi,

Thanks for the response.

It's great to hear from someone who is in as closer an exact situation to me as you could possible get when it comes to broadband.
ADSL24 would require my phone line to be with them too so, they're out.
Vivaciti could supply what I need, on their Variety ADSL2+ LLU package. That reports to be unlimited but, they do use traffic shaping during office hours (8am to 7pm Monday to Friday) for certain types of traffic. That to me isn't unlimited... I think they mean unmetered. Regardless, that would make no odds to me as I'm not at home during those hours.

If I went with Xilo/ Uno, it would be the Pro 24 75GB package I'd go for. If I could attain the sorts of speeds you have, I'd be over the moon. I'd like to think I'd be in with a good chance too, seeing as how strong my current ADSL1 performance is.

Out of interest, what do Xilo/ Uno count as peak times?

I'm guessing that either Vivaciti ir Xilo would offer me comparable performance, if they don't restrict the lines at all. If that were the case, Vivaciti would be the choice for me due to the nature of their package and the cost.
If however, Xilo had equipment that would enable better performance, I'd happily go with them for the extra few quid and slight inconvinience of peak traffic management.

Paul

In reply to a post by youngsyp:

Out of interest, what do Xilo/ Uno count as peak times?

8am-12am Mon-Fri is considered peak currently.

Matt

Paul,

Sorry can not comment on Vivaciti's partial LLU service having never used it personally.

Looks like Matt has answered your question about what counts as peak times with uno

Actually at the moment I'm considering a move to uno 21CN from partial LLU (and would keep my line rental with BT) because my exchange has just been enabled but that may not be relevant to your current situation...

Edit: just checked here http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SMYG and 21CN would probably NOT be relevant for you at the moment. Also just to clarify: uno Pro 24 75GB off peak is unmetered but there is a 200GB fair usage check.

Edited by 4M2 (Mon 25-Jun-12 15:52:57)

In reply to a post by 4M2:

Also just to clarify: uno Pro 24 75GB off peak is unmetered but there is a 200GB fair usage check.

Might be worth checking with Vivaciti as well. I believe they still have a FUP but not sure if it is still around the 100GB mark. May have been relaxed?

I phoned to check when they changed the product description as I pay extra for unlimited / unmanaged but was told my usage still warranted the bolt on.

*** Edit to say I am on the broadband complete package rather than variety but I think both use the surfwise product.

Edited by deleted (Mon 25-Jun-12 16:18:32)

gmoorc,

How's reliability, stability and general upload/download speeds, including streaming BBCi player HD and YouTube 1080p buffering speed (if you use them) at any time of day with Vivaciti LLU?

Edit: this is what I like so much about uno partial LLU: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8020/7440987896_f9dc64... test done at 4.40pm today (25-06-12) and I always get a consistent result just like this at any time of day or day of the week on my 37dB adsl2+ downstream attenuation

Edited by 4M2 (Mon 25-Jun-12 17:01:13)

I'm using Vivaciti LLU Variety - phoneline still with BT.
Have no problems with speeds whatever the time of day.
The speed management only applies to P2P traffic during office hours - not something I do.
BBC iPlayer is fine.
Pre move my stats were:
Connection Speed 8128 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 18.0 db 8.0 db
Noise Margin 13.4 db 24.0 db
after move

Connection Speed 19280 kbps 1022 kbps
Line Attenuation 20.5 db 9.7 db
Noise Margin 5.8 db 9.3 db

But I also tweek my router to a Noise Margin of ~3 dB and get >21Mbps download sync.

Hope that helps

Im on the same as rarrar and speeds are full throttle during the day 24/7. I use the Jdast speedtester which tests every hour and the lowest throughput I have seen over 1000 samples is 16 mbps.

Thanks for the comments guys, I must admit that I'm swaying towards Vivaciti, as the product just suits my needs.

@rarrar, what modem/ router are you using out of interest?

And are any of you guys matching chipsets?

Thanks,

Paul

I am paying to have restrictions removed so take my comments with that in mind. I don't think streaming should be managed but I had some odd results way back before I added the bolt on.

Synced at 21Mbps

Reliability
I'd say good. Had occasional outages lasting up to a few hours which resulted in packet loss and latency spike but these have been rare. Maybe 3 or 4 in last couple of years.

Stability is good. Always seem to get full speed at all times of the day. Same for streaming, never noticed any problem.

Only slowdown I have noticed is with downloading games through Steam weirdly. 1.9MB/s down to 1MB/s.
The thinking was that this may have been down to peering as if I connected through a VPN speed shot back up to max again. Haven't tried recently though.

Busiest time for the network seems to be between around 9.30am and 6.30pm weekdays where recently started to see max latency (Yellow plot) creep up a bit. Not affecting real world use though. Average and min ping still flat.

My Iplayer results not quite as good as yours though. Assuming this may be peering also?

Link

Vivaciti looks good

BTW.forgot to mention this:

C:\Documents and Settings\me>ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=245

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 35ms, Average = 34ms

...and I have interleaving on for stability.