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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Apr-14 19:26:39
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Re: Connecting to Xilo


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She was unaware she was on LLU.
Standard User caley
(regular) Wed 16-Apr-14 21:05:12
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Show's you how much I know then smile I'm no expert at this game but I'm learning fast. Web Design and computer building are my business.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Apr-14 22:29:17
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
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I know you are quite knowledgeable, so you must be not feeling up to scratch smile.

That is just gibberish as a post and rubbish with respect to fact. That is not at all like you are normally.


You are too kind sir. All I was trying to get across that on LLU one is freed from the BT line management and artificial speed groups. and Sync is closer to d/l speed rather than some enforced barrier. I hope you can understand what I mean and explain it to others in your clearer style.


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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 16-Apr-14 22:56:46
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Re: Connecting to Xilo


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On ADSL2+ and FTTx the speed groups were abolished literally years ago. (2011).

On ADSL2+ the IP Profile is 88.2% of sync and normally adjusts immediately. On FTTC it is 96.79% and adjusts immediately.

Compare with O2/Be maximum throughput of about 84% of sync.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 17-Apr-14 20:23:25
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Re: Connecting to Xilo


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Thanks mate.

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Standard User caley
(regular) Thu 17-Apr-14 21:35:16
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That's me now connected to Xilo with no problems at all. modem light just changed colour, I put in the new details rebooted and change over complete. Glad that's over. Could do with an opinion please. I've put the modem stats below and I don't know a thing about them. Could you tell me if they're good or bad and if they might improve or get worse over the next week or so. Thanks.

Caley


Connection Speed
Downstream Upstream
11811 kbps 1011 kbps

Line Attenuation
21.5 db 10.5 db

Noise Margin
11.9 db 12.7 db

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 17-Apr-14 22:00:05
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I've lost my trusty online graph that I could mentally apply adjustments to. I'm sure I downloaded it just in case this happened, but ....


Anyway, the attenuation suggests you should get a lot more than 11811kbps downstream. The upstream is reasonably good, as the maximum is around 1.3/1.4Mbps.

What's hitting you is the 11.9dB noise margin. On ADSL2+ I reckon each 3dB over the normal 6dB cost between 700 and 1200kbps.

If the connection was made late today, during dusk or later, I suggest taking the stats (and recording/storing them) any time between 10am and 4pm, then immediately do a single reconnection and take them again as soon as it has reconnected. Then we can see the result and compare the before and after.

We take it from there smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User caley
(regular) Thu 17-Apr-14 22:04:32
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Thanks for the response. I'll check the connection around lunchtime tomorrow then reboot the modem/router and do it again. I'll post the results tomorrow.

Thanks.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 17-Apr-14 22:28:31
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Bad! Running just over half speed (of 19-20 Meg) only a small part of which is attributable to this high NM:
In reply to a post by caley:
Downstream Upstream
Noise Margin
11.9 db 12.7 db
which is normally 6dB on a good line.

But let's see what you get when you follow Roberto's suggestion.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 17-Apr-14 22:35:00
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I'm also looking for high 24/7 variation smile. Which is why I want the stats immediately before the reconnection as well as after. I've a feeling the TTB default is 9dB anyway, but is readily changed by most of the resellers.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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