what are bt like these days???

The people responding to your cross-post in the BT forum are probably best at advising on that. This is a resellers forum, which basically means the resellers of Entanet, C & W/Vodafone and TalkTalk Business Wholesale.

ok sorry

can you plz close the other post plz ty

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I'll be honest and say I'm not sure but it does seem that all providers will end up with sites being blocked in the near future...

I doubt that this will ever happen, As ISP's do not sell to anyone under the age of 18 yrs, therefore supply services to adults only, so no need for web blocking, AAISP won't block because the nanny state wants to control/dictate what we can and cant see,

I was talking about piracy...

and as RobertoS has highlighted, all ISP's have to conform to the same rules...

But he missed this bit

Is the Digital Economy Act in force yet then?
The Act is, but only applies to very large ISPs. The limits could change at any time and affect us, and you, so this is why we ask now, in what capacity you receive services from us.

So as things have stood since the DEB was introduced only the big (mass market ISP's)
So no blocking by the smaller isp's ,
There is also no IWF filtering or blundering at ISP level on implementing the IWF list, that all too often results in over bocking or blocking of inocent web sites IMO if the isp is unable to get it right then they should not bother at all

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 04-Apr-15 16:49:06)

Good spot tommy .

I assume that comes later - in which case it should come earlier, or have a marker on the bit I quoted!

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and as RobertoS has highlighted, all ISP's have to conform to the same rules...

But some seen very willing to supply their customers' details than others. ISPs should wait for a court order and and have the opportunity fight it in the courts noting how unreliable IP addresses are in proving guilt.

DrT

Edited by deleted (Mon 06-Apr-15 00:50:36)

dr teeth what isp you with now? any recommendations?

Honestly.. I don't know how they go about it but tbh I think all ISP's have to supply info at the request of a high enough authority...

Some probably just save time in the process..

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Honestly.. I don't know how they go about it but tbh I think all ISP's have to supply info at the request of a high enough authority...

I've posted some commentary in another thread here and here.

I don't pretend those comments are the last word in the matter, as I have not been following the developing case law. The important point is that the ISP's involvement is limited to the preparatory Norwich Pharmacal order stage, where the ability to discuss the merits (or otherwise) of the claims being made against the ISP's customers is somewhat limited. Golden Eye was something of an exception to explore and develop the limits of the law).

It is also arguable that the ISP's job is not to represent their customers.


Against this background, it is understandable that ISPs often choose not to oppose a Norwich Pharmacal order application if a court is minded to grant the application.