Reason some ISPs who have been served a court order can still access the site is how they block it. I think BT just block the actual URL so its easy to get around using the IP address of the site

I know this is what happened with a popular usenet website that BT "blocked" but was easy to still access

In reply to a post by Neil_A:

Yes, the customer told me there was a court order. I'd never heard of Torrentz.eu until this customer mentioned it. A quick Google shows lots of articles about Torrentz.eu and various requests for ISPs to block it.

But there is no court order, although you said there is.

The customer listed 5 ISPs who had been served the court order, one of which was O2. I tested that with my own O2 phone, found it blocked with a copyright infringement message which seemed to support the customer's assertion that there was a court order to block the site.

But there is no court order according to the list here http://www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk/

The question I was answering was whether Timico was blocking it (we are not) and whether we have received the court order (we have not).

Well, you wouldn't have, as there isn't one.

You also asserted that BT are blocking it, which they are not.

I believe some sites have been blocked without a court order in place, and instead the bigger ISP's like BT and Sky have proactively decided to block these illegal sites.

The confusion lies because even with a block in place people can still access the sites. I know Newzbin was blocked by BT before it closed down but some could still access it while otherse couldnt

Edited by bobble_bob (Tue 18-Aug-15 13:30:13)

In reply to a post by bobble_bob:

I believe some sites have been blocked without a court order in place, and instead the bigger ISP's like BT and Sky have proactively decided to block these illegal sites.

Illegal? Without a court order, I don't think they're illegal.

As there's no court order, BT aren't blocking them.

Well i say illegal but that is debatable. A usenet site that links to copyrighted material is no more illegal than Google doing it but still have been blocked

In reply to a post by bobble_bob:

If you want a few months with an ISP until you move try Pulse8. They dont charge a connection fee

Plus8 looks interesting. Thanks!

In reply to a post by Neil_A:

*Timico* is not blocking Torrentz.eu, however I don't dispute that you can't get to it on a Timico connection. We think it is getting blocked further down the line by a transit provider.

Are you really trying to say that your transit provider is censoring your broadband service?
Can you get us a list of websites not available, ehm, not supported, on Timico broadband?
That would help a lot.

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In reply to a post by Neil_A:

Hi there,

1) All Coms customers on TalkTalk lines affected for next 10 days or so. I'll post here again when the work has been completed (basically some traffic bouncing from London to Manchester and back to by-pass a box that is being upgraded).
2) No need to change DD details yet. We've contacted some customers to change billing but not others. We'll contact you if/when you need to change

Thanks

It's been 12 days now. Any news on that?

Edited by deleted (Sat 22-Aug-15 13:04:18)

My pings now got even worse: had 17ms with Coms, then got 30ms after migrtion. Now they are like 50ms.

PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.103) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from fmt-vip132.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.103): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=49.8 ms
64 bytes from fmt-vip132.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.103): icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=49.7 ms
64 bytes from fmt-vip132.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.103): icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=49.9 ms
64 bytes from fmt-vip132.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.103): icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=49.7 ms
64 bytes from fmt-vip132.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.103): icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=50.8 ms

Is this the time to move to zen? Neil?