Pulse 8 do stand alone line rental yet they going by the web site do not do stand alone FTTC (SMPF) So only MPF Why Talk talk wholesale won't do SMPF i don't know , profits from line rental & calls maybe?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Plusnet have offered me this deal: (the price is much the same as SSE but far cheaper than SSE)

Fibre Unlimited Extra with up to 80Mbps down and up to 20Mbps up with unlimited usage £12.50 for 24 months (saving of £179.76 off)

Line Rental £0.00 for 12 months (saving of £48.00 off) if paying upfront LRS £155.88 one off fee before 2nd September 2015

Anytime Call Plan (inc free calls to 01, 02, 03, 0845, 0870 and NGT Typetalk) £6.00 per month

Static IP Address £0.00 (free of charge)

Referral Discount -£2.50

Monthly charge £16.00 (with a saving of £227.76) with a minimum of 24 months contract.

So, I took the decision to stay with PN and took this offer! The offer were too good to be turned down!

One other not so obvious thing is though max .TT use the Standard BT OR DLM stability profile and not the Speed profile that plusnet and some other isp's use

Fine if you line is almost error free , but not so good if it isn't how G.inp factors into this i don't know

Tried calling them? Seems odd they stopped replying to emails they're usually very good

what the difference between TT Business Standard BT OR DLM stability profile and PN OR DLM Speed profile?

I am not sure if TT Business are DLM on G.INP enabled too? As every FTTC are now switching on G.INP by OR (I used to be on fast path for long times over 14 months before OR changing the G.INP.

Edited by adslmax (Thu 20-Aug-15 15:18:10)

Tried phoning them and wont connect. Says a fault. Hmmmm

Compucare that own them cant connect either

Edited by bobble_bob (Thu 20-Aug-15 15:29:14)

Oh Ooooh!

Interesting!

Pulse8 the design company which are linked to Pulse8 broadband i think also getting same phone error. They're still active and posting on twitter though

In reply to a post by adslmax:

what the difference between TT Business Standard BT OR DLM stability profile and PN OR DLM Speed profile?

I am not sure if TT Business are DLM on G.INP enabled too? As every FTTC are now switching on G.INP by OR (I used to be on fast path for long times over 14 months before OR changing the G.INP.

The DLM and G.inp are implemented and maintained by BT Openreach, So work exactly the same regardless of the ISP (Plus they work at Dslam /cabinet level ) or if it is Openreach GEA which is purchased by TT and Sky and other ISP's where they have LLU kit in the BT exchange either way the ISP has no real control over the connection from cab to master socket apart from the DLM stability profile used

The rest of the ISP's purchase FTTC via BT Wholesale who order from BT openreach
The difference being the back haul/data transit provider BTW or TT ect

Of course if the ISP's network is used for transit then there's no BTW IP profile So max throughput rates can be a little higher

When i said that i didn't know what impact the different stability profiles would have, for those who have G.inp enabled (which would appear to have replaced fast-path)
Dlm may react by applying banding , or setting a higher level of G.inp /interleave, no one seems to know what it's next step would be, but i would say that if on standard or stable profiles that next step would be more likely to occur for most

Edited by tommy45 (Thu 20-Aug-15 16:32:59)

Got through to Compucare. Pulse8 phone system has died they have engineers running around all over the place trying to fix it. There email system should be working though but maybe you havent had a reply due to the chaos of the phone systems dying?

Edited by bobble_bob (Thu 20-Aug-15 16:35:32)

Btw i asked them on the phone about fibre to fibre. They can do BT FTTC -. FTTC but not Talk Talk