In reply to a post by Bryer:

Most modern platforms are migrating to IPv6, and cutting off IPv4 access.

What "platforms" are you talking about? Gaming platforms?

Perhaps you can give some examples of ones which are "cutting off IPv4 access", to support your claim that "most" of them are?

I am curious to know what do you expect to do with IPv6?

Sorry for the delay in answering this.

Most of the servers I connect to for remote work have IPv6 addresses (as do my local machines), although most do also have IPv4 addresses. However, the (slightly) lower latency will be very welcome.

In reply to the 3rd question it depends on the area, in my village I know of multiple people where they just failed to install for a multitude of various reasons.

Thanks
Dan

In reply to a post by Ducksonspeed:

IPv6 will be comming, we are currently building out the required systems.

Do you have a timescale for this?

In reply to a post by Ducksonspeed:

Hi,

I work for gigaclear and can answer a few of these as I work on the teams implementing these changes.

IPv6 will be comming, we are currently building out the required systems.

You will be given an IP from our DHCP service which will be dynamic, but CGNAT will be coming in as the price for blocks of IPs has increased. We have a number of hurdles to get over with CGNAT first. I believe you can get a static ip if needed.

I am unsure for this last one.

Good to see you replying. FYI as a resident of recently completed or-soon-to-go-live Brackley I'd have signed up if:

a)You provided IPv6 (my current ISP has been offering it dual-stack for nearly 20 years).
b)You offered a static IPv4 address with a single payment (my current ISP offers it as standard but I accept that's probably impractical now).

So for now I'm happy to wait for Openreach.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

I am curious to know what do you expect to do with IPv6?

I'd assume it lets people connect to servers and websites that aren't on the IPv4 network. Such as those behind IPv4 CGNAT in the UK, and websites that are not in English in Asia.

For me it's not about what I can do with it. It's entirely about why the *censored* would any ISP not offer IPv6 as standard in this day and age. And in particular why would anyone have built a new network in the last few years and not baked IPv6 in as a matter of course?

To me it smacks of an ISP that lacks technical knowledge and experience.

(Sorry).

Edited by Andrue (Fri 29-Sep-23 14:25:39)

+1

Apart from the minor detail that Gigaclear went live in my area of Didcot today, it could have been me who typed that... but I thought I'd be gentle and just see if they had anything to say about an IPv6 timescale

Virgin Media's business division does IPv6 on leased lines to offices etc, but nothing on their consumer division. They don't do CGNAT thankfully, but they do have 30 year old cabling that falls apart. Your profile says Plusnet, which I suspect is incorrect as they certainly don't do IPv6... it does sound as if you are on AAISP, so I guess you have either a high speed FTTC or an Openreach FTTP connection.

Not an option to all whom can get Gigaclear.

The sad fact is there is nothing IPv6 only in the UK... if a website such as GOV.UK went to IPv6 only then it would force the ISPs to update. Until then the majority of v6 only websites are in languages most of the UK can't read.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Virgin Media's business division does IPv6 on leased lines to offices etc, but nothing on their consumer division. They don't do CGNAT thankfully, but they do have 30 year old cabling that falls apart. Your profile says Plusnet, which I suspect is incorrect as they certainly don't do IPv6... it does sound as if you are on AAISP, so I guess you have either a high speed FTTC or an Openreach FTTP connection.

Oops, I'd forgotten I even had a profile on here because I hide them. I'll update it. I've been on IDNet for many years now. I left PN when they announced closure of their IPv6 beta programme for the same reason that I wouldn't switch to an ISP that didn't offer it.

I'm on FTTC. Gigaclear and Swish have recently finished laying FTTP around my town and both run past my house. But since neither offer IPv6 I'm waiting for Openreach which of course has the added advantage of saving me the hassle of changing ISP.

The sad fact is there is nothing IPv6 only in the UK... if a website such as GOV.UK went to IPv6 only then it would force the ISPs to update. Until then the majority of v6 only websites are in languages most of the UK can't read.

Which misses my point. IPv6 is not a new protocol. It's been around for 20 years. Any ISP that doesn't offer it is technically deficient. Lack of IPv6 might not hamper my use of the internet but it leads me to question what else about their network might be technically deficient.

Edited by Andrue (Fri 29-Sep-23 19:57:03)

In reply to a post by billford:

+1

Apart from the minor detail that Gigaclear went live in my area of Didcot today, it could have been me who typed that... but I thought I'd be gentle and just see if they had anything to say about an IPv6 timescale

I'm not sure if they've actually gone live in Brackley yet. Swish have because I've seen one of neighbours having it installed. But if there's any consolation here for Gigaclear it's that Swish are no better on the IPv6/CGNAT front.

In reply to a post by Andrue:

same reason that I wouldn't switch to an ISP that didn't offer it.

Gotcha, its very important to you. Doesn't necessarily mean its important to everyone in 2023.

I'm on FTTC. Gigaclear and Swish have recently finished laying FTTP around my town and both run past my house. But since neither offer IPv6 I'm waiting for Openreach which of course has the added advantage of saving me the hassle of changing ISP.

Good luck waiting, I'm waiting on Toob and F&W/Hey both of whom are building but flats & wayleaves are a nightmare. No sign of Openreach FTTP except on one new development other side of town.

Which misses my point. IPv6 is not a new protocol. It's been around for 20 years. Any ISP that doesn't offer it is technically deficient. Lack of IPv6 might not hamper my use of the internet but it leads me to question what else about their network might be technically deficient.

I'm not sure my corporate network is "technically deficient" or my customers, and for my usage neither is my ISP, but you obviously have different needs. CGNAT is essentially what we are behind at work, over 100,000 staff across Europe.