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Hi

just saw this on the portal..
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Plus.net news letter - We

I wonder how the referer (not just him, all of them) sleeps at night? I wouldn't wish an ISP so laughably poor as Plusnet on anyone. Must have the scruples of Plusnet themselves.

It's probably someone high up like an MD or CEO who has all their staff using Plus.net ADSL accounts for logging in to work.

The

Edited by caesar_salad (Fri 08-Sep-06 11:17:32)

"It could even be Lee Stafford since he has overall control of every employee's work accounts."

Why yes! And it was Lee on the grassy knoll, and Lee was piloting the ship at Roswell, and Lee really killed Archduke Ferdinade, and he's also responsible for covering up that the Virgin Mary had other children, as well as being the anti-pope.

When you put the hat on, it's shiny side out, m'kay?

That made me chuckle.

If you are unable to post evidence to support those accusations I suggest you withdraw them immediately. That was a totally uncalled for personal attack on a company employee who is unable to defend himself. It`s no wonder PN staff don`t post here anymore.

Lee Stafford iz da MAN!

Lee Stafford RulEZ OK?

Do you feel better now after your outburst?

I was just saying that it *COULD* even be Lee to say that it's probably someone who has a bit of clout with a large business account and not someone who has been trying to get friends/family/cats and dogs to sign up to Plus.net.

Maybe I should have put an extra large smiley at the end of my comment? Jeez...

Edited by caesar_salad (Fri 08-Sep-06 13:40:23)

At

unable to defend himself eh? Surely he could come in here and give it a go? Nah he aint got the bottle........rather get his legal team jumping over someone for an opinion.

So judging how much that referrer earned in one calender month and the fact that Plus.net have a sliding scale of referral discounts as shown here:

http://portal.plus.net/support/member_features/my_referrals/myreferrals_discount_info.shtml

We can all agree that the referrer would have to have quite a lot of people signed up in order to get that magic

If he makes

That's a bit personal considering that you don't know the person as they haven't made themselves present on this forum in order to announce who they are, don't you think?

I would tend to see it as that there are some out there who are just very astute business people and use what life throws at them.

Don't tell me that you've never used a 2 for 1 offer or a money off voucher before?

Edit: Sometimes you really have to stop and think if what you are about to say actually adds any value to the thread rather than just typing without thinking..

IMHO earning money via Plus.net referrals is not like joining in a pact with the Devil, if you believe in that sort of stuff. There are other worse things out there to worry about, trust me.

Edited by caesar_salad (Fri 08-Sep-06 15:12:17)

If I sent you a cheque for

Indeed. It could also be that folk whose council tax or mortgage is being paid for by PlusNet might sometimes turn a blind eye to their faults.

Simon

I think it`s reasonable to assume that the referrer is aware of the current situation with Plusnet. It`s also reasonable to assume the referrer is in some way reselling PN products. In order to maintain such a high level of remuneration I would suggest that any service issues are dealt with by the referrer to CSC rather than the referral.

Without knowing the level of issues experienced by the clients, it`s difficult to make a judgement. However based on the current number of complaints on this, PUG and PN`s own forums it`s safe to assume that possibly all of them are included in the 95% who don`t visit these fora.

Quite why PN consider this to be a fact worthy of mention in the newsletter, when more pressing information could be given which would benefit the customer base is beyond me.

Even deny that they exist at all.

If it was dirty money from folks paying plusnet for a dire service I most certainly would turn it down, on principle.

I see it as a marketing push to get people to start referring Plus.net by word of mouth again.
After all, they have to stop the rot somehow..

Mmmm. Right.

"...dirty money...."

Bit histrionic, but par for the course I suppose.

I wouldn't want to line my pockets with the misfortune of others bad choices, more so if i was the person who'd recommended them.

For example, I'd happily refer folks to zen for nothing in return, which is exactly how they get alot of business.

With Plusnet they're a company ran by an unscrupulous management team who'll do anything for a sale, including paying people who are happy to cream off others unfortunate enough to take they're advice, just for the money.

I'd be very suprised if this

Edited by buggerlugz (Fri 08-Sep-06 16:02:07)

Well given that it would cost me another

Could I ask a question and without it being misinterpreted - Would you in all honesty recommend PN to friends, family or customers at this time? I know you have stated you are happy with their service but you are also no doubt aware of the problems so would you for love or money send them somewhere else or to PN? I am serious and will take your answer in the same spirit and I certainly don't want to argue, just your honest POV.

I know it was aimed at someone else but my take is that all I needed was a connection, didn't need any of the email/web platform stuff, and I had sufficient accounts already in use, and they worked, I'd need a lot of persuading to change them all.

From never having used them but from what I read on here there's no way I would use them, or recommend them, but in the right circumstances I can't see why an existing customer wouldn't go out of their way to leave.

Assuming their ISP needs were in line with Plusnet's service (Download limits, price, services etc), yes.

I myself have one tiny complaint that pops up semi-regularly with Plusnet and it's the hosting of the CGI servers. However, I'm aware that I'm getting a CGI service which is 90% at decent speeds and sometimes slow. All for no extra cost.

Service - is that not a problem?

I say that because the only things that differentiate ISPs now is their service. Anyone can provide a connection, email or hosting but how many companies can provide adequate service and a reliable service? I would think that reliability is the most crucial of them all and PN are not able to. I know it hasn't affected you directly but do you not agree it is a problem?

That usually is my most important criteria above all else but I accept it is not what everyone needs. wants or is perhaps willing to compromise on due to a lower price. I am not a heavy downloader, I wasn't when I was with PN either and I never called them except for once when my line went down. They got onto it double quick but this was in June last year and I know it would not be the same today. There are other reasons why I could no longer recommend them and although I am not in the minority I don't expect everyone to be the same as me.

I do however thank you for your frank answer.

Taking this thread back on topic, it looks like it was a Plus.net reseller who got the kudos...

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Posted: 08 Sep 2006 12:00

dslweb wrote:

340? Is it the managing director puttng in a dodgy claim?

Those figures are actually correct. Last month, Phil, our Campaigns Officer, spent some time calling some of our largest resellers to try and find out what techniques they are using to get such high figures. There were quite a few varied approaches, from word of mouth to other methods.

As has already been mentioned, they have been some high level members of staff who are no longer with us. But I'm still here. Yay

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Taken from here:

<a href="https://portal.plus.net/central/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47995" target="_blank">https://portal.plus.net/central/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47995</a>

It seems that even after you leave Plus.net as an employee you become a reseller.. its almost in the blood..

Edited by caesar_salad (Fri 08-Sep-06 21:46:28)

I noted from another post somewhere that now you can leave PN and still retain being paid for referrals. Obviously they are getting desperate, one person leaves and takes another dozen with them. This person if he had left could have taken 340 accounts away too, but now they can leave, for say bad service, keep the money and PN keep the customers.

By the way at what level do you have to inform IN REV when you have paid someone? I seem to remember over

Lee wasn't on the grassy knoll he was on the sixth floor of the book depository. wasn't it Marco on the grassy knoll?

Edited by highwayman (Sat 09-Sep-06 23:17:46)

I feel bad because one of my referees is still on Broadband Easystart @

Edited by RBentley (Sun 10-Sep-06 22:32:44)