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(deleted) Sun 06-May-07 21:35:23
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Re: LLU pricing model


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It's one of those difficult things to do a proper like for like comparison. When an ISP buys IPStream and a central pipe they aren't just being a fibre link that connects point A to point B but in effect a fibre link that connects 5,500 point As (every exchange) to point B (the ISP's datacentre).

To do the same yourself then yes the fibre link from each exchange is going to cost significantly less than a BT Central but you're going to need a lot more of them.

To LLU Sheffield and Rotherham for example an ISP may use another ISP's backbone like Telewest or BT to provide them with a dozen or so links to connect all the local exchanges together in one place and then a cross country link from there to Manchester or London maybe.
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-07 12:29:22
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"To LLU Sheffield and Rotherham for example an ISP may use another ISP's backbone like Telewest or BT to provide them with a dozen or so links to connect all the local exchanges together in one place and then a cross country link from there to Manchester or London maybe."

Or the ISPs provider may have fibre/kit local to most exchanges and provide a Metro Ethernet/MPLS solution to drop the data off wherever the ISP likes.

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(deleted) Mon 07-May-07 12:41:33
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Re: Plusnet to Be*?!?


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"I can categorically say that they are not."

I thought all agents had a performance related bonus scheme? Surely retention related work affects this?

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(deleted) Mon 07-May-07 13:25:58
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In the past there was a performance based bonus, but that was changed a long time ago.
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-07 15:16:29
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Re: LLU pricing model


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True, and it probably makes things easier if the ISP themselves has multiple PoPs across the country. So for example if they had a PoP in Manchester they may need say four cross country links to take the traffic from say Liverpool, Leeds, Sheffield/Rotherham and York with each of the local exchanges in each of these cities and Manchester as well connected to each other using the MPLS solution. While a PoP in Birmingham could do the same with Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Coventry, etc.

Even so, while you're cross country links are going to be a lot cheaper than BT centrals you're still going to need more of them.
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-07 16:57:27
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Be* use BT circuits for backhaul.
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(deleted) Mon 07-May-07 20:56:37
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big fat ones
Standard User Andi_B
(newbie) Sat 12-May-07 22:37:11
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Re: Plusnet to Be*?!?


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Hi Dave

Thanks for your post. Apologies, but I have been on holiday for a few days (hence my lack of posts). The speed displayed from the portal link provided shows 6500Kbps. I have just run another speedtest:

[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/125383877.png[/IMG]

It's showing circa 5Mbps, which I'm guessing will allow a faster ADSL2+ speed?

Cheers

Andi.
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