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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 10-May-07 16:35:23
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Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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I noticed that the ability to view Internet Activities feature is not available on Pay As You Go accounts.

Does anyone know why this is? It would be a really useful facility for this type of account.

Thanks,

Mark
Standard User ScaryMonkey
(knowledge is power) Thu 10-May-07 16:44:46
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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IIRC it is because the data for PAYG usage is taken from Radius (as this is accurate) instead of the Ellacoyas. The usage breakdown isn't possible from Radius data unfortunately.

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(deleted) Thu 10-May-07 17:30:13
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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That's a shame. If only the Ellacoyas could be used with a simple profile (no shaping at all) so that the information could be gathered.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 10-May-07 23:11:44
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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When we first created VMBU back in the day on the old Home Lite (forerunner to PAYG) we only had one source for the usage data which was the CBC data from BT. Last year when changed VMBU to include the traffic breakdown we pulled that data from the Ellacoyas but didn't change the source on PAYG.

With BBYW with kind of merged the two, CBC generates the totals and Ellacoya the breakdown. I don't know if it's possible to do this on PAYG but will ask.
Standard User jelv
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 11-May-07 09:58:02
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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Somewhat tricky for someone on PAYG if they are using RIN as the traffic doesn't go anywhere near the Plusnet Ellacoyas which do the traffic analysis!

jelv

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ISP Representative IanWild
(isp) Fri 11-May-07 10:22:46
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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There is a way that we can get the same data feed from BT's Ellacoyas in the same format as we use. That will be something we eventually would need to do if we wanted to use RIN on anything more than a trial basis. That work though hasn't made it past the "talking about it" stage yet.

Ian

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Standard User jelv
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 11-May-07 14:01:47
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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Does that statement mean that PAYG RIN traffic is currently going through BT Ellacoyas?

jelv

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Standard User Chesterfield
(committed) Fri 11-May-07 14:42:29
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Re: Internet Activities graph on PAYG


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Sounds like it to me.. WOuld be one way to explain my dire speeds on PAYG.
ISP Representative IanWild
(isp) Fri 11-May-07 14:43:50
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Course... Remember - Ellacoyas tag and monitor traffic and are used on many networks throughout the world, but they don't do shaping. Thinking of one as the other confuses things imo. Our RIN profile, as far as I am aware, is free from shaping. Then again, I know very little about RIN so I can't really tell you anything else.

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(isp) Fri 11-May-07 14:44:36
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I don't think it explains that at all - I'd love to know what is causing them though.

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