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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-May-09 15:54:59
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Moving from plusnet to virgin


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My brother in law has had a tv/phone/internet package offer which suits him so is moving from +net. He currently has his TV through Virgin and has cable. As he is not moving to another BT package does he still need to get a MAC code from plusnet and if so will Virgin need it. Sorry if the question is naive but as I personally have never swapped broadband suppliers before (been with =net since 2003 when broadband first became available to me) I have no experience of the process.

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Standard User wingco1
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-May-09 16:13:57
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Re: Moving from plusnet to virgin


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Yes at BT will need to move "ownership" of his broadband from PN to Virgin.

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(deleted) Sat 30-May-09 16:57:50
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If you are moving to Virgin cable phone then you don't need A BT line and this means two things you don't need a MAC and it will mean cancelling the broadband from the BT line which carries a charge of £20 payable to Plusnet
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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Sat 30-May-09 17:03:04
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Re: Moving from plusnet to virgin


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In reply to a post by Oldjim:
If you are moving to Virgin cable phone then you don't need A BT line and this means two things you don't need a MAC and it will mean cancelling the BT line which carries a charge of £20 payable to Plusnet
Do you mean the ADSL? The line cancellation via Plusnet would only be if it is through Plusnet in the first place. It may be BT Retail, and I'm not aware of any cancellation charge unless on one of the new fancy contracts..

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-May-09 18:18:21
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It is the broadband cancellation charge not the phone line per se http://www.plus.net/support/customer_service/billing...
I have edited the original post for clarity

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Sun 31-May-09 09:31:35
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Standard User jelv
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 31-May-09 09:59:29
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Could he migrate to standard Virgin ADSL via BT and then switch his Virgin product to cable as a way of avoiding the £20 cancellation? Or would Virgin charge for a switch from ADSL to cable so he wouldn't win anyway?

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Sun 31-May-09 12:11:44
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In reply to a post by jelv:
Could he migrate to standard Virgin ADSL via BT and then switch his Virgin product to cable as a way of avoiding the £20 cancellation? Or would Virgin charge for a switch from ADSL to cable so he wouldn't win anyway?
Good question smile.

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Standard User kasg
(regular) Sun 31-May-09 19:09:02
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In reply to a post by jelv:
Could he migrate to standard Virgin ADSL via BT and then switch his Virgin product to cable as a way of avoiding the £20 cancellation? Or would Virgin charge for a switch from ADSL to cable so he wouldn't win anyway?
I don't see how. Surely at some stage the BT cessation charge would apply, either when migrating to Virgin LLU (is this really C&W?) or, if that were not available, when migrating from Virgin Broadband via IPstream (BT Wholesale).

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Sun 31-May-09 19:43:55
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Yes, but Plusnet definitely charge the cessation to the customer, and the question is would Virgin swallow the charge on a transfer from their own ADSL to their cable.

I wasn't aware they did LLU anyway. Isn't Virgin Media ADSL just BT IPStream (ADSL Max) like any other?

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Standard User kasg
(regular) Mon 01-Jun-09 10:01:44
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Yes, but Plusnet definitely charge the cessation to the customer, and the question is would Virgin swallow the charge on a transfer from their own ADSL to their cable.

I wasn't aware they did LLU anyway. Isn't Virgin Media ADSL just BT IPStream (ADSL Max) like any other?
I take the point about Virgin swallowing the charge - I forgot it was the ISP that actually passed the BT charge on (or not). As for Virgin doing LLU, it appears so, through C&W, but I shouldn't have thought it were worth their offering it in cabled areas.

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Mon 01-Jun-09 12:01:22
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As for Virgin doing LLU, it appears so, through C&W
Not quibbling, but where do you get that from? I'd like to know before I start saying it smile.

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Standard User kasg
(regular) Mon 01-Jun-09 12:23:00
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
As for Virgin doing LLU, it appears so, through C&W
Not quibbling, but where do you get that from? I'd like to know before I start saying it smile.
How about here:

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/virgin_adsl/3629063...

or here:

http://networks.silicon.com/telecoms/0,39024659,3916...

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Mon 01-Jun-09 12:45:31
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That's great - thanks smile !

I was living in un-blissful ignorance. Darn hard to find on their web site though - I tried before I asked. So this time I did a search in the site and got the allyours.prefix.

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Standard User Guardian1uk
(newbie) Mon 06-Jul-09 00:57:03
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my persoanl advice from personal experiance with virgin is DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRC- do this i had HIDEIOUS latency issues with them when i was on them the are THE second worst isp i have ever had with bulldog dsl being THE worst i ever had (with bulldog in short, i took their service and had 8 days dsl connection in a 2 MONTH period, at which point i called breach of contract and walked)

DEF look at other isps and avoid virgin like the plague
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