In reply to a post by 4M2:

Have you decided against having zzoomm 150Mbps FTTP on a 12 month contract for less than £30 per month if available? I know you mentioned them previously and don't need that speed; or would you rather re-contract with PN FTTC and stay on the OR network rather than cease and/or migrate the xDSL service? The later option of staying with PN, at this stage and on balance, does seem to perhaps be the least troublesome choice.

Only slightly less than £30 a month zzoomm is, okay the first 3 months is £19. I am going to phone Plusnet tomorrow and see what they can offer, but chatting to someone last night who did the same thing a couple of days ago, is seems as if plusnet is not really moving much from what is on their site in the offers. Trying to push people to FTTP and higher prices on FTTC.

If I went for Zzoomm, I would get it installed a couple of weeks before my plusnet contract is up and then get rid of plusnet at the end of my contract.

Staying with FTTC is always going to be less hassle, even if I moved to another provider, as I just put the new details into the router.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

As for being poor for the sake of 3 months, I could if I really wanted to pay more for broadband, I could go to 1Gbit if I wanted to. TBH I don't really want to pay for broadband at all, no more than I want to pay for gas or electric, but it is something we need these days.

The point I was trying to make was, if you go with Shell then at best you'll save a few quid; but if you're unlucky you'll get into a world of pain, especially if broadband is "something you need" as you say. If you're prepared to take that risk, then fine. Ofcom publish these figures precisely so you can make this sort of judgement. Ofcom doesn't require CPs to provide a good service, it lets the market sort that out.

If you're really trying to cut costs to the bone, you could try tethering off a mobile phone, or a fixed 4G/5G router in the loft, with an unlimited data plan.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

If you're really trying to cut costs to the bone, you could try tethering off a mobile phone, or a fixed 4G/5G router in the loft, with an unlimited data plan.

He's already said he can afford it even able to pay for a 1 Gbps service, its more about not wanting to pay for anything as someone down his pub/street said why should he.

Edited by deleted (Tue 16-May-23 08:29:33)

I prefer self scan checkouts.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I am going to phone Plusnet tomorrow and see what they can offer...

Good luck, hopefully PN retentions/sales will offer you something acceptable.

In reply to a post by dect:

He's already said he can afford it even able to pay for a 1 Gbps service, its more about not wanting to pay for anything as someone down his pub/street said why should he.

you are such a nit, I would put something stronger, but this is a public forum. I know I have to pay for broadband., Broadband is a thing that we need these days, because everything is online. I started on dial up, when it was more of a fun thing and to get information, it was not a glorified advertising platform, which is what the internet is these days, like everything else it has become commercialised.
I would have stayed with ADSL if it was a good enough speed here, but 3Mb/s if I was lucky is not good these days. That is the reason why I went to a wireless network as they offered 10Mb/s, but it was a fair bit more in cost even then.

In reply to a post by 4M2:

Good luck, hopefully PN retentions/sales will offer you something acceptable.

I just phoned them now instead of tomorrow and he seemed more interested in getting me to Fibre, none of the offers were any better than what I can see online, so really a waste of a phone call, but at least I now know.

I said i did not want a 24-month contract and he would not budge on that, his reason is because of the cost of installation, but as I said to him, if I am going to go through the hassle of having FTTP installed, then I may as well go to Zzoomm which has a better network than openreach, only a couple of quid per month more expensive, have 150Mb/s up and down, so faster than what he offered and a 12-month contract.

He came up with the rubbish about copper lines going in 2025, which is a load of cobblers, they are not going in 2025, but i could not be bothered to argue.
The phone line was awful, you would have a thought a large company like Bt, whose main business is telecommunications, would be able to sort that out.

so tomorrow i will have another look around,

You are spending more time posting about this and phoning people than the value of time is going to save you each month on a broadband service.

I will say again, if you want a short contract then there are FTTP ISPs that will give you that, but you then have to pay for the installation. Your opinion is that ISPs covering £137.74 of install charges and then £290.74 for the year of service (80Mbps on the Openreach network) should be charging you less than £30 a month for it and let you walk away after 12 months - do the sums, they don't work out.

I'm sorry to hear that the Plusnet agent was unable (or not willing?) to offer you a satisfactory deal. It looks like you may be edging toward seriously considering a zzoomm FTTP installation and ceasing the xDSL and landline.

If you do go with zzoomm or another FTTP provider on a 12 months contract at a reasonable price and have no need for a PSTN voice service then hopefully things will work out OK...

In reply to a post by jpm:

You are spending more time posting about this and phoning people than the value of time is going to save you each month on a broadband service.

Er? I only phoned one ISP and that was the one i am with now. not sure what you are on about time saved.

I will say again, if you want a short contract then there are FTTP ISPs that will give you that, but you then have to pay for the installation. Your opinion is that ISPs covering £137.74 of install charges and then £290.74 for the year of service (80Mbps on the Openreach network) should be charging you less than £30 a month for it and let you walk away after 12 months - do the sums, they don't work out.

I am not bothered about having FTTP, I thought I have made that clear before, if plusnet offered a good price on FTTC on even a 18-month contract I would not be looking at another provider. But they have stuck the price of FTTC on a 18 month contract close to FTTP, in fact they have put FTTC at a higher price than the 76Mb.s FTTP package.
They offered me 145Mb/S FTTp for £28.99 on a 24 month deal or FTTC for the same price on a 24 month deal. no installation to pay for FTTC, it is already installed, up and running.
openreach is now pulling the strings, it is Openreach that are telling the ISPs what to do.