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I am not defending PlusNet - I'm defending the rights of CUSTOMERS to have a forum where outside trouble makers are kept out of it.

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Just out of curiousity, who amongst the Plus.net customers nominated you to be our spokesperson?

I think you must be looking at yourself OM - I'm certainly NOT waging any sort of vendeta against anyone. I'm not the one on another ISP forum looking for every snippet of information to have a dig at.

However, I do feel very sorry for the sad individuals like yourself who have so little to do with their time that they spend it on a forum of other people ISP just to stir up trouble. There should be help on the NHS for such an illness.

George, if i was an admin on here, that would have got you banned.

can i ask you a hypothetical question, seems as you have now destroyed my original post?

If i were back with Plusnet as a customer, posting in the same forums,would you show me the same hostility?

I genuinely asked the PUG a question and you have once again alienated my view point. If you have any decency about you, please copy my original post onto the PUG forum and see whether you can discuss it like an adult on their forum. Then post me the final outcome.

As for the mods on ADSLG, you might as well chalk this one down as a flame war and please lock it.

>So as an ex customer of 6 years, i have no valid cause for questioning? Of course it >concerns me, i may want to make an informed decision before considering going >back.

As an EX customer you have no rights to any facilty or service from a company.

>Again a classic quote, from someone who is so intent on keeping th forums free from >perosnal attacks. I would compare a person of your callibre, as someone who starts >a war, and then crys to the UN when they are getting hammered

You judge me wrong OM, oh my word do you!!

>George you cannot imho argue so positively and constructively on other boards, and >then at the same time show no regard or respect for people on another forum, just >because they do not wear the same shade glasses.

Respect has to be earnt and from what I see on this forum a lot do not deserve any respect. I would never claim PlusNet is perfect, neither would they, but there are far worse ISP's around as they are not subjected to the same barrage of trouble making by a small group of individuals like those who appear on this forum.

This forum has been ruined for genuine customers by these individuals and they are intent in keeping it that way. Not only is the company constantly under attack but also customers and members of the user groups. This forum used to be a nice friendly place for customers and prospective customers to come for advice. Now all they see are a bunch of non customers who have hijacked the forum attacking anything and anyone that has anything to do with PlusNet. That will NOT earn any respect from me!!

This forum has been ruined by People like YOU and Plusnet Marketing Reps telling lie after lie ,

"As an EX customer you have no rights to any facilty or service from a company. "

roflmao - so you are effectively saying that any ex customer has no right to ask or demand a better service? Do you not understand how a business works? Customers are the lifeblood of any company, winning back ex customers is easier to do then recruit new ones.

"You judge me wrong OM, oh my word do you!! " i would love you to prove me wrong

"Respect has to be earnt and from what I see on this forum a lot do not deserve any respect."

On this forum i have respect for you, you earnt that by posting valid constructive criticisms, however you are quickly losing any respect by coming out with personal attacks. We may not share the same view points, however we share the same forum.

"Now all they see are a bunch of non customers who have hijacked the forum attacking anything and anyone that has anything to do with PlusNet."

the only attacks i can see are from yourself, now correct me if i am wrong:

1) you are not an ex customer

2) you are a present customer

3) you are the only one dishing out attacks

4) you are the only one destroying and massively taking my thread off topic

The only difference between you and me, is that you are a customer and so i would suggest you reowrd the above quote.

Now please do as i so nicely asked you, and ask my question on the PUG forum.

>George, if i was an admin on here, that would have got you banned.

Of course you would because truth hurts don't it.

>can i ask you a hypothetical question, seems as you have now destroyed my original >post?

Never touched your orginal post

>If i were back with Plusnet as a customer, posting in the same forums,would you >show me the same hostility?

What hostility? If you make a post on here and don't want any comments unless they agree with you say so!

>I genuinely asked the PUG a question and you have once again alienated my view >point.

See above!

>If you have any decency about you, please copy my original post onto the PUG forum >and see whether you can discuss it like an adult on their forum. Then post me the final >outcome.

No thank you I don't cross post on other forums

>As for the mods on ADSLG, you might as well chalk this one down as a flame war and please lock it.

Help it's getting to hot for me lock the thread

as they say in Austin Powers

yeahhhh..... whateva

As an EX customer you have no right to DEMAND anything just as anyone who have never been a customer has no right.

Go into any shop, walk up to the manager and say " I'm not a customer of yours, I think your shop stinks" then start demanding that he rearranges his shop to suite you and see how long you can remain in the shop before getting kicked out on your backside.

Don't try to teach your grandmother how to suck eggs when it comes to running a business. Don't judge others by your own standards.

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roflmao - so you are effectively saying that any ex customer has no right to ask or demand a better service? Do you not understand how a business works? Customers are the lifeblood of any company, winning back ex customers is easier to do then recruit new ones.

I see that you have ignored my very valid questions to you in this thread regarding several topics that you've raised, i.e. the independence of the Plus.net hosted forum yet you've gone and baited Soundsystem instead.

I see that you have become what you have openly said that you detest on this forum..