"Until someone from Plusnet explicitly states the employee was sacked we cannot be 100%."

I am not arguing the method used to end his employment.

Terminating the employment, allowing them to resign or even performance-managing someone out of business is standard practice and changes nothing.

My point, which I perhaps have not been able to articulate well earlier, is that PN did not deem the person competent and hence the direct correlation to his departure. How this departure occurred on a legal or formal basis is irrelevant. The fact the person no longer works there is attributed directly to his incompetence.

That much the statement makes clear.

edit giving a person the option to resign is tantamount to being fired by a caring employer.

edit 2: caring employer can sometimes also be translated to one covering their backside for legal reasons.

Edited by rsharma (Thu 07-Sep-06 15:47:56)

Do you honestly think that any of the higher managers will say "I'm no good at my job and don't deserve drawing a salary from this company" and leave without being pushed?

It's the so called "little people" like here in this Gary Larson cartoon that are sacrificed, mostly!

http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/db/fd/95_1.JPG

Agreed , but have you ever known a Company with such a poor reputation as at present, turn itself around with the same CEO, Directors and top level management that got it into this mess to start with

I'm guessing that is not going to happen unless suddenly they all get their bodies taken over by aliens from a superior world who happen to know a bit about how to run a successful ISP outfit? (Sorry I've been watching too much Invasion, me thinks)

I'm a firm believer in advocating that they need outside assistance to get this one back on track, to bring in some fresh blood and ideas which are workable..

I think the head in the sand approach is the favoured method. Twelve months down the line reorganise again, blame someone for the ongoing problems, "allow them to leave", and so on. A stratergy that is 2 years ahead of the competition

Do you expect an honest company statement from Plusnet?

What I expect and what I get is rarely the same. Me Dad told me that life is like that.

What I will do is remember the times when I get bull, and make future decisions on it.

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You have drawn a conclusion from those to separate statements that could be right but could be wrong, unless you are omnipotent.

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Omnipotence would not help here. Omniscience might

the usual. it should be the idiots that write the procedures at the top of the chain that get the boot.

(or whoever came up with the idea that RAID = backup in the first place)

Edited by deleted (Fri 08-Sep-06 03:06:46)

>>>>.Omnipotence would not help here. Omniscience might

darned ieSpell, it should have known what I meant.

Browsing those pharmacy spams before I remove them may have had something to do with it,