This thread is meant to be talking to both staff and other posters, not to start yet another argument.

Apology accepted...

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Opposing views are never a problem, it is the manner of those statements that counts.

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.. and it's the manner of some of Simons recent posts that have triggered the ban.

In which case I could name a dozen names more/equally deserving...

couldn't we all? albeit slightly less deserving.

But gentlemen do not call for others to be banned do they.

Edited by deleted (Fri 11-May-07 16:44:02)

How can this thread get to this state?

It was a civil discussion with the TBB Staff and a few others, but if anything it proves a point, people still like to take threads off topic.

What credibility can we have that post (which includes everyone) to try and make a point, when exactly what has been stated at the beginning of the post, has happened towards the end?

If people want to argue an post nonsense I believe Free Chat is available, until that can we keep OT? Please?

If this continues all TBB are going to say, is "WE TOLD YOU SO"

Not aimed at anyone, just clicked reply.

Looking at this thread I think proves banning Simon for 3 months isn't the answer.

Until the tit for tat stops and something is done about the couple of posters that
never add anything to a thread, just try and derail it, there isn't much hope for this forum!

I have to say I agree - I think the only option the mods have left is to start handing out bans/deleting posts left right and centre for all of the "argumentative"/"tit for tat" posts until people get the message.

This forum should be about help/support/technological discussion/policy discussion and all that other good stuff and not about ego-boosting, competitive-point-scoring-nit-picking...[IMHO]

"PR and yourself have brought much to the table.. but this mystical opinion that he/you are responsible for all/most change is egotistical in the extreme."

You seem to forget that PN have lived and died by their reputation. Forums on various sites along with other mediums such as UseNet were certainly responsible for their growth and they can also be attributed to the reduction in numbers that has taken place over the past year or so.

I don't think Simon and rsharma are responsible for any change. Only PN are responsible for change. Have they changed PN's attitude? Undoubtedly, yes. PN have been repeatedly spanked over the past couple of years. They are tired of the baggage they carry around and want a clean slate. TBB are helping clean the slate by removing Simon from this forum.

Personally, I don't think they deserve a clean slate. Let them earn their reputation over again.

TT

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