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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Dec-12 21:25:42
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No - changing to the new products removes any existing discounts

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 16-Dec-12 21:41:41
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No traffic management still applies.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5134-new-advertis...

Which is ok, so long as the slow down is not outside the average users expectation.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 16-Dec-12 21:45:35
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Thanks Andrew. I've just read the primary page linked to from the article, not the ones referenced within it yet. Too tired smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 16-Dec-12 23:07:18
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In reply to a post by relax24:
Not sure if I've missed it, but I'm still in my first month of extra fibre with the £5 for the first three months offer. If I upgrade will I still retain that discount?

As Jim's explained, you'd lose the discount.

Rgds,
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 16-Dec-12 23:16:03
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In reply to a post by relax24:
Not sure if I've missed it, but I'm still in my first month of extra fibre with the £5 for the first three months offer. If I upgrade will I still retain that discount?
As Bob says, you would lose it, but there is nothing to stop you regrading during the third month - effective on the fourth billing date, for no charge. It would add three months to the end of your minimum term, thats's all. I'm in month 11 now, (no discounts), and will upgrade for the start of month 12, tieing me down till the end of month 29.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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(deleted) Sun 16-Dec-12 23:24:46
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Exactly what I was thinking. Cheers all.
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(deleted) Mon 17-Dec-12 00:56:09
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
I feel as if I chose the wrong isp now tongue Although when ordered only infinity was available for my cabinet.

When wanted to order FTTC, BT would not provide it but Plusnet would! Now, I'm quite happy that I was forced down this route.
Standard User adslmax
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 17-Dec-12 01:58:16
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Plusnet Unlimited for ADSL/ADSL2+/FTTC is a step forward ahead and sound very promise but what happen if there is 80% customers average of 150GB usage allowance per month while the rest of bad boys 20% did over 2TB a month - will Plusnet give out a warning letter to bad boys to cut down usage allowance or will be suspension ?

plusnetADSL2+15.7 Meg

Edited by adslmax (Mon 17-Dec-12 02:00:23)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 17-Dec-12 03:48:17
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Are your numbers (80%, 150GB and 2TB) just random guesses, or close to reality?

The last Ofcom report on UK broadband (last month) showed that the top 10% of users (on ADSL2+ uncapped packages) used 50% of the total bandwidth usage, and the other 90% of users used the other 50%. Likewise, the bottom 50% of users used only 10%.

The report is here, and graph is on page 22.

The figure on page 20 suggests that the average is 30GB, again for unlimited ADSL2+ packages.

I *think* that means that the 90th percentile will be doing 30GB, the 10% heavy users will do more than 30GB on average, and the 50% lightest users will be 6GB or less.

I also recall seeing the presentation slides for a BT "fibre surgery". They suggested that average busy-hour backhaul usage figures could be applied for SFBB end users - IIRC it was 200kbps average. For 4 hours each evening for 30 days, that would be about 10GB.

I reckon your figures are a long way off reality - but I also reckon that knowing the actual figures is absolutely vital (to Plusnet) to understand whether they can afford to supply this package.

I suspect that their old package limit (of 250G for extra fibre) was so close to "unlimited" that it made no practical difference for *at least* the 90% level of users, and that the marketing use of "unlimited" will attract people onto both sides of that point - those who use less, but can't be bothered to calculate, and those who know (or believe) they use more.

From that, I reckon they will have to add some capacity, but certainly no more than double.

Anyway, Bob has reported (over on the Plusnet forums) that there is no FUP at all - which suggests that the bad boys won't be getting a warning letter, or issuing suspensions.
Standard User ukhardy07
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 17-Dec-12 06:51:35
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This is definitely very tempting for the future...

I've never once considered PN as any usage limit has been a big no for me. I doubt I use over 100Gb a month, probably not 50Gb but honestly I don't know and I don't want to keep checking.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Mon 17-Dec-12 06:51:58)

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