Yes the clever use of wording to get around legislation, or that's how i see it, after all people don't join an isp to see if they can win an award if that's what bronze silver & gold are, they do specify in big bold lettering UNLIMITED therefore it should be free from the pn (bt ) throttling malarky they can dress it up all they like, but that's what it equates to

Edited by tommy45 (Sun 06-Jan-13 22:36:49)

Post deleted by The_KELRaTH

word.

The ASA guidance qualifies "moderate" as "no more than the user would expect from natural contention" I think.

In my eyes, this means seeing a ~1-2Mbps dip at peak hours on an up to 16Mbps product and possibly larger bigger dips on a fast fibre connection, obviously dependant on your exchange location and equipment.

Although this does give the ISP some wiggle room, I suspect this is in there to protect the ISP from claims of their products not being 'unlimited' when its actually back haul congestion out of their control.

We certainly don't plan with this in mind. I look at latency graphs every morning to make sure that we aren't slowing down. Looking at our bronze queue at peak last night, we were averaging <20ms latency for that traffic, i.e. pretty much what we see in our gold queues, and no dropped packets. Therefore, customers torrenting on the New Unlimited product should have seen close to line speed performance for their torrents. (if that was all that they were doing at the time). These graphs don't take into account anything on the BT side of the connection yet though.

In reply to a post by KellyD:

word.

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That's a bit too abstruse, even for me .

I think it's obvious...
... highlight most of the post except the one "word", then press the "del" key by mistake.

In reply to a post by KellyD:

These graphs don't take into account anything on the BT side of the connection yet though.

Uh oh, what's this? Us and them?

That's reading something into the post that wasn't there!

Simply that we currently only graph our network performance/latency and not anything on the wholesale/supplier side.

It did occur to me that's what had happened, but strange that he didn't see and correct it at the time.

It is a known forum feature that typos appear between previewing and posting.
It does that ti me all the time