In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Depending what comes out of the further consultation, I expect PN will end up with a unified price. Though it would be possible for them to introduce MA and MB pricing for new or product-changing customers.

At my M2 exchange, for example, it's PN's "low cost area" pricing that makes it competitive with TT full LLU. If PN adopted the current M1 pricing for a proposed MA (outside a "low cost area") exchange where only TT have a LLU presence that would perhaps give TT a distinct marketing advantage?

I find that arithmetic fallacious. Times have changed!

I don't accept my wrongness you confer on me. Neither of us is wrong, or right, yet but I'd rather go with the %ages.

Edited by XRaySpeX (Mon 22-Jul-13 17:54:54)

The usertools checker now includes the new classification based on the proposals which, of course, may change http://usertools.plus.net/exchanges/

Edited by deleted (Mon 22-Jul-13 17:54:37)

If!

It hasn't even been decided that MA and MB classifications will come into force, though it is likely. Speculation about PlusNet's pricing policy some time in 2014 is utterly pointless.

As this July document was due in May, it is probable that the final classifications expected in March 2014 will also be at least a couple of months late. We could all be dead by then.

Anyway, how many LLU suppliers are there in your exchange? Only TalkTalk?

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

I find that arithmetic fallacious. Times have changed!

I don't accept my wrongness you confer on me. Neither of us is wrong, or right, yet but I'd rather go with the %ages.

The relevant wholesale geographic markets that we have identified differ from those identified in the 2010 WBA Statement in two respects.

First, the conditions of competition in exchanges where BT is the only PO (�BT-only� exchanges) and those exchanges where there is one other PO present or forecast to be present (�BT+1� exchanges) are sufficiently similar to justify their inclusion in the same geographic market (i.e. Market A) for the purpose of our SMP assessment.

Note that I assumed you would realise that I was talking about how exchanges now are - in other words what their M1/2/3 status would be if reclassified on the 2010 criteria.

People might note I've not bothered to worry the masses with a news item on changes to market definitions yet

So much is going on in this review, and we could see a return of the margin squeeze test from the 2002-2004 era

In reply to a post by Oldjim:

The usertools checker now includes the new classification based on the proposals which, of course, may change http://usertools.plus.net/exchanges/

Thanks Jim

My Market Drayton exchange currently shows as Market: 2 and Mkt2014: B

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Therefore MA = M1 + M2.

Therefore my previous example CLIFTON doesn't exist according to that PN exchange checker:

In reference to usertools.plus.net/exchanges/?exchange=Clifton&exact=242:

Exchange Status Checker
Results: Clifton Code: MYCTN
County: Yorkshire - North
Enabled: 28 May 2002
Market: 2
Mkt2014: B

So in answer to my question, there is at least one more LLU supplier than TalkTalk?

Yes for Market Drayton; No for Clifton!