Thanks. D'oh!

Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

XRaySpeX link, the consultation and proposals:- http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/consultati...

No reference that I can see to - Your link, the annexes to XRaySpeX's link :- http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/consultati...

How did you find it?

In reply to a post by gah789:

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In simple terms, if you are at a Market 1 exchange today with BTW as the only wholesaler, then nothing much is going to change apart from a gradual reduction in BTW's charges to your reseller. For those who don't realise it, it is what happens to the bandwidth charge that is probably the main driver of the bill that the average user pays - bandwidth revenues are more or less equal to rental revenues and are growing faster.

AAAAH,
at last, that is the SIMPLE answer I was after !!!

The reason for ALL this:
BT has CANCELLED our 21CN upgrade, and our MP is moving back to THIS village, i.e. subject to Market 1, (and ilready designated as Mrkt2014: A)
Of course the cost will be borne by us, the taxpayers, but the the POOR service and no sign of improvement could mean, that, when proded, some representation to OFCOM and/or BT might arrise !
Not holding my breath though....

But the discussion shows what a can of worms this is, OFCOM should be proud of themseves,
strike that,
SHOT ...
Regards,
Martin

I really don't understand what on earth is getting up your nose. Apart from jealously.

With all BT Wholesale based ISPs that I can recall bar PlusNet, the price at all exchanges is the same, and higher than PlusNet's Market 1 price. EE is a special case, where it depends on which exchanges they had LLU'ed before selling it all to BT Wholesale.

So you don't get it as cheap as M2/3 customers of PN, but you still get it cheaper anywhere other than LLU. You should be shouting at the LLU suppliers for being miserable gits and not LLU'ing your exchange.

As someone said, your gripe is in the wrong forum. PN are the only honest ISP in the game in this respect.

In reply to a post by martinsq:

at last, that is the SIMPLE answer I was after !!!

But it's the answer to nothing! It does not address how PN will treat your exchange under the new (proposed) classifications; only PN can say.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

EE is a special case, where it depends on which exchanges they had LLU'ed before selling it all to BT Wholesale.

I believe EE uses market 1 and market 2/3 pricing like Plusnet these days. I put a number into the EE checker on an exchange with Sky and TT LLU; the exchange never had Orange LLU. The lower price was offered.

http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1164... which had a link to http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/revie... which has a link to the document
However - it wasn't me who found it - see reply 11 in the thread

EE uses a hybrid of ex-LLU & Markets: see http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/freeserve/t/4206584...

In reply to a post by Oldjim:

http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,1164...

- reply #17: user currently on a M1 Sky LLU'd exchange and the exchange will be MA. I can certainly understand peoples' concerns about the future of PN's "low cost areas" and the pricing structure in general.

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