I was on 24meg ADSL2+ with pulse8 on my Market 1 exchange BEFORE the fibre switch. Possibly you remember the fuss it caused here. Al I know, is that there is still no reference to anything other than Market 1 for my GLemsford exchange, along with never being limited to an 8 meg service for connect services, other than the PO, where White Label is only ever 8 meg. I believe they still are an 8 meg supplier, despite all the lies of higher speed when they switched to TT.

I think it's the 8meg ADSL service. I have never been restricted to 8mb. Always had 16 meg from the ADSL2+ upgrade when I was with Plusnet - Long before unbundling.

Thank you. It also explains the sky high price I get from the likes of Plusnet or the old Sky connect that was. My initial switch to Pulse8, before they switched me to TT LLU, was the same speed, with speedtests showing Tiscali (Owned by TT). That is the P8 setup where no LLU, though did not effect me speed or price of £19 + £6 for line.

Correct, with equally good backup.

In reply to a post by professor973:

Thank you. It also explains the sky high price I get from the likes of Plusnet or the old Sky connect that was.

Plusnet's price is definitely Market A/B determined, yup, because that's how the BT Wholesale price they pay is determined.

In reply to a post by professor973:

My initial switch to Pulse8, before they switched me to TT LLU, was the same speed, with speedtests showing Tiscali (Owned by TT). That is the P8 setup where no LLU, though did not effect me speed or price of £19 + £6 for line.

So you've always had LLU on Pulse8, first Tiscali wholesale and now TalkTalk wholesale, which explains the cheaper price.

Whilst not relevant to Pulse8's pricing, it is odd that your exchange is still Market A despite having at least one LLU provider available, presumably for quite some time from what you've written.

not to mention that even if LLU wasn't there in the first place, BT might of had 21CN WBC product available which goes up to ADSL2+ spec

Why is it that people extrapolate their own usage patterns to the usage of the entire population. Let's face it, all of us on here are a pretty weird bunch and in no way representative of the whole population!

My exchange has had TalkTalk for a couple of years at least and is still market A.

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

The issue is that yes Landline Phone's are barely used anymore...

It depends where you live. We have to go out into the garden to make a call on our mobiles!

Yes my apologies, my statement that you have quoted and many seem to have picked up on is slightly inaccurate and maybe need some more context adding too it.

Landlines are still used quiet a bit but if many where to have the choice not to have them then we might find a lot less people would have them and use them...

The changes in the usage patterns on landlines might only be in urban area's with dense coverage from mobile operators and also the availability of more than one broadband infrastructure, but I feel that with the recent changes to mobile tariffs and the huge coverage that these changes are getting in the media, many consumers may opt to investigate alternative tariffs or even abandon there telephone lines where possible.