In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

ISP Review clearly don't have access to first hand information as they've reported some things incorrectly

No change there then.

at least they trying to get information out there which is better than "guess what I have the info but I am not sharing".

Personally g.fast doesnt excite me. the speeds from vdsl2 are enough for almost all mainstream activity, FTTP would excite me as thats an entirely different technology, so with FTTP comes reliability and guaranteed access speed.

Also post g.fast rollout will be the inevitable of backhau'ls been too small because once again the clever people will be surprised at the network demand (both VM and BT).

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 22-Aug-15 13:38:50)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

990 Mbps is impossible since Gig Ethernet has a max TCP/IP throughput of 943 Mbps

Thanks, knew there had to be a reliable number, but didn't search for it.

I've not looked, but hopefully the Gig ISPs so far (Hyperoptic, B4RN, etc) are correctly advertising this maximum.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Personally g.fast doesnt excite me. the speeds from vdsl2 are enough for almost all mainstream activity, FTTP would excite me as thats an entirely different technology, so with FTTP comes reliability and guaranteed access speed.

I've been usefully impressed with the stability of VDSL2 on my FTTC compared to my previous ADSL2+ but that may just be due to the shorter line. I do have work colleagues who only get 25 Mbps or less on their FTTC, so G.FAST technologies will help - but I still wonder if that is spending the wrong money. As you say FTTP gives a lot more assurance. (e.g. in server rooms copper runs at 10 GigE reliably now, but we still use fibre as well between racks).

I have specifically been given information "in commercial confidence", yet you expect me to share it? Clearly you've never worked in any industry with commercial sensitivity. You might not agree with commercial sensitivity, but you still have to respect it.

Some of the ISP Review news is guess work. I know for a fact that Openreach or more specifcally, the BT Press Office, will not have released certain information. The problem with guess work is it's entirely that.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what is different compared to before on the physical side - only the ordering/planning side.

It will be interesting to see what is physically different to the current FoD.

In reply to a post by AndyHCZ:

It's an Openreach trial in Huntingdon of a 1000/100Mbps FoD product along side the 330/50Mbps G.Fast trial.

ISPs will be taking part directly with Openreach (LLU) and through BT Wholesale (WBMC/WBC).

Hmmm that's fast, it's a pity Openreach aren't as quick at coming to check and fix a reported line fault ..... 10 days is too slow.

Only one that seems to be is wait for it - TalkTalk

Max theoretical TCP payload rates:

GbE - 949.28 Mb/s (timestamps off), 941.48 Mb/s (timestamps on)

Openreach VDSL2 - 75.36 Mb/s (timestamps off), 74.74 Mb/s (timestamps on

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Only one that seems to be is wait for it - TalkTalk