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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Wed 09-Aug-23 18:23:38
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Re: Broadband ISP Plusnet Discounts UK FTTP Packages for Sum


[re: binary] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by binary:
Having a brand new Openreach FTTP service installed to run alongside the Openreach FTTC service for a short period (before then porting the number out to a VoIP provider) is also a workable solution, on the condition that the ISP for the new Openreach FTTP service genuinely understands it is a distinct new installation rather than a 'takeover' and implements the order as such.

I'd imagine that ordering the new Openreach FTTP service via a smaller 'on the ball' ISP such as Aquiss might be the way to go.


I did a similar thing when ordering FTTP from Aquiss, during the install/activation the copper line was left active, then after several days I ceased only the SMPF ADSL, which was with another provider. The PSTN voice/phone number was retained on the line since at this stage I have no immediate wish to have VoIP.
Standard User Chardonbleu
(newbie) Thu 10-Aug-23 11:24:11
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Re: Broadband ISP Plusnet Discounts UK FTTP Packages for Sum


[re: rogerh] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ferretuk:
Are you sure they didn't reconnect your master socket to the copper pair Openreach (used to?) include in their fibre drop cable? That's what they did with mine.

Yes.

I don't think there is a copper pair in the "drop cable" they used. My terrace has a 12-port CSP on the back wall 5 houses away, from which they ran a black cable (labelled "Corning Optical Cable/Fastaccess (TM) Technology/1 SMF BIF") along the back wall and into my house. Inside the house that cable goes into one end of a small rectangular Openreach CSP and the optical cable from the other end of that goes into the ONT.

The master socket was left in place with just the snipped off tail of the old copper cable protruding from the back and through the external wall. I just removed it and the 30cm tail of copper cable.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 21-Aug-23 16:04:25
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Re: Broadband ISP Plusnet Discounts UK FTTP Packages for Sum


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24 months seems to be the norm with fibre contracts now. Presumably takes longer to recoup price of router and install, if included in monthly price?

In contract price increases are also becoming the norm, but there is no real reason for this given the ISP has a guarenteed income for the contract length, especially as it usually adds it's own increase on top of the RPI one!


Its about min revenue per customer.

ISP's would rather have someone paying £30 month for 24 months with a high exit penalty vs someone paying £50 month on a 1 month contract, because the latter only assures them £50, the former much more.

Openreach wholesale allows 1 month on FTTP, same with CF. Not really enough push from Ofcom to tackle the issue sadly. Ofcom allowing in contract rises with no exit clause is just baffling. Way too much trust in the industry "We make OR do this and that and the retailers will pass on the benefits", and "we trust them to not push the rules to the limit for maximum profits".

VM Gig1 - AAISP L2TP

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 21-Aug-23 16:06:54)


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