In reply to a post by pyarwood:

do you want to bridge the router so you can use your own with FTTP ??

If you have FTTP, and use your own router, then you connect it directly into the ONT. You don't use the ISP supplied router at all.

The only time you'd want to use the ISP supplied router is for FTTC, where you want it to act as a modem, but terminate the session on your own router (which has an ethernet WAN port but no VDSL modem).

The newer modems make better use of the DSL signals, so can provide higher sync than the old modems.

The old modems had a nasty habit of going ‘pop’.

The use of two power supplies.

In reply to a post by DFScale:

I got one of those off ebay, unlocked it and used it on my 40Mb/s FTTC [I didn't need 80]. Worked a treat if we are talking about core router functionality and I would still use it I were on FTTC. Difficult to see how a modern plusnet router could be any better

I suppose if you have a bad connection that don't lock on well, then a newer modem may do a better job than an older one. I found the Huawei modem did a better job than my plusnet router and the Zyxel router that Plusnet sent me, but I did have a fault on my line, but even after that was sorted I found the modem worked better

The newest Openreach modem is going to be from 2016, anything you buy that has been used will have had close to 8.5 years of being connected to a phone line dealing with voltage transients, capacitors degrading etc. Buy one if you want but people valuing them at £40 are mad, they're essentially e-waste now and should be priced as such.

In reply to a post by jpm:

The newest Openreach modem is going to be from 2016, anything you buy that has been used will have had close to 8.5 years of being connected to a phone line dealing with voltage transients, capacitors degrading etc. Buy one if you want but people valuing them at £40 are mad, they're essentially e-waste now and should be priced as such.

+1

In my opinion I would say if my Huawei HG612 3B modem doesn't go pop as you suggest it might, it's perfectly OK to keep using it and on the vast majority of lines I don't believe a newer modem would perform any better. As others have said these modems work very well.

Also if the OP want's to use a Pusnet HUB2 in bridge mode with a separate router that still requires 2 power supplies.

In reply to a post by jpm:

The newest Openreach modem is going to be from 2016, anything you buy that has been used will have had close to 8.5 years of being connected to a phone line dealing with voltage transients, capacitors degrading etc. Buy one if you want but people valuing them at £40 are mad, they're essentially e-waste now and should be priced as such.

On the resell value I agree. The value is more like £10. But the argument that it is worn out for dealing with voltage transients really does not hold water for me. For the most part, it either works or it doesn't. The value of £10 reflects the likelihood that it will stop working sooner rather than later, not that it does the job better or worse.

Post deleted by PCJM40

No you dont AUTOMATICALLY use your OWN router connected to the ONT.
If they already have a router why are they not using this already ?

I was asking what the op wanted to achieve so can give advice
but I agree I wouldnt and dont use the ISP router

Edited by pyarwood (Fri 26-Apr-24 14:39:47)

What rubbish new modems dont use the signals better they usually attempt a different SNR
Very few old modems went pop.
if they are bridging the router they are already using 2 power supplies.

what you probably found is you were using an eci modem on a non eci cabinet so was getting lower sync rates.