In reply to a post by pyarwood:

No you dont AUTOMATICALLY use your OWN router connected to the ONT.
If they already have a router why are they not using this already ?

I was asking what the op wanted to achieve so can give advice
but I agree I wouldnt and dont use the ISP router

Some people are just out for an argument, would hate to bump into you accidentally.

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

What rubbish new modems dont use the signals better they usually attempt a different SNR
Very few old modems went pop.
if they are bridging the router they are already using 2 power supplies.

what you probably found is you were using an eci modem on a non eci cabinet so was getting lower sync rates.

You trying to cause another argument I see.

There's not much point trying to argue with someone who doesn't understand the difference between FTTC and FTTP.

Indeed.

Very few old modems went pop.

This comment is wrong, pure and simple. I have been in a unique position to see way more than most re such things. They did, and can still go pop, in large numbers.

Only ever had one modem/router go pop and I've had about 7 via different ISPs.

Still play with a very old be/O2 modem/router that allows us to use my mother's TV to connect wireless devices. She doesn't have broadband.

I’ve never had a modem or router go pop, ever …

but encountered the old Openreach stand alone VDSL modems , either brand, from back in the managed install days ?

I bet I’ve swapped out over a hundred or so over the years.

In reply to a post by DFScale:

On the resell value I agree. The value is more like £10.

Yeah, I would not pay more than a tenner if I needed one.

But the argument that it is worn out for dealing with voltage transients really does not hold water for me. For the most part, it either works or it doesn't. The value of £10 reflects the likelihood that it will stop working sooner rather than later, not that it does the job better or worse.

Agree 100%, sure caps can go bad and may be a issue, but these things can keep working for years.

I had a Netgear router with ADSL modem many years ago, I gave it away when I went onto Wireless broadband about 12 years ago, and it is still in use and working fine.

The ECI DSL modem I had went pop, but I am pretty sure that something happened on the line to do that as my phone went off at the same time. That is why I borrowed my neighbour's Huawei modem and then eventually got my own.
The Huawie one was still working fine until I changed to FTTP mid last year.,

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Very few old modems went pop.

This comment is wrong, pure and simple. I have been in a unique position to see way more than most re such things. They did, and can still go pop, in large numbers.

The only one that went pop on me is the ECI one I had, and I still think that was caused by a fault on the line. Routers have been my problem, well two, the plusnet one and then after a few years the Zyxel one and that was a cap problem.

Your the one trying to cause an ARGUMENT
I am not even TALKING TO YOU I am talking to the OP so why are you butting in. ???