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Standard User IronOld
(newbie) Sat 01-Nov-25 00:44:02
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Re: Alleged hack EE/BT source code of entire UK mobile netw


[re: AndreiV] [link to this post]
 
The response below to Silver Fox HT's video is interesting. A guy with extensive Infrastructure, networking and security experience. He says he's worked as an engineer at BT.

This Brown Geek - YouTube response

I don't think Mr Silver Fox has any significant IT or cyber security experience to make these claims. For instance if 'BT's source code' had been breached, banking systems (etc) will have their own encryption methods.

There are a number of reasons we should be skeptical of Mr Silver Fox, not least his lack of IT/Cyber security acumen.

I watched his video. Alarm bells rang for me when he throws in comments about Digital ID. He is a prolific political commentator on his YouTube channel & has given a lot of coverage to Digital ID, so this is supporting his own narrative. If the systems holding our sensitive data (including biometric) is hacked due to it being held by this DID initiative, it won't be due to 'source code' from BT being discovered.

It's also suspicious why "someone senior in BT" would go directly to a solitary YouTuber to leak this to. Lack of credible sources make not for a legitimate case.

Edited by IronOld (Sat 01-Nov-25 09:13:09)

Standard User IronOld
(newbie) Sat 01-Nov-25 01:17:56
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Re: Alleged hack EE/BT source code of entire UK mobile netw


[re: gomezz] [link to this post]
 
Hello there,

As you may've been aware, Microsoft (Azure) had issues on Wednesday (started just before 4pm (UK time) and was fully resolved just before midnight. A number of services, including BT & EE I believe were affected. Microsoft supply a large proportion of Internet services & connectivity through Azure, so there's a possibility you were affected.

List of services affected: https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk-news/microsoft-outa...

Hope this helps.
Standard User gomezz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 01-Nov-25 08:14:13
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[re: IronOld] [link to this post]
 
Sounds feasible. Thanks for the update. Curious that the EETV app on my BT Youview box continued to work through this outage. I am guessing because it did not need to authenticate my usage unlike the apps on my phone and tablet.

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 01-Nov-25 08:49:20
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Re: Alleged hack EE/BT source code of entire UK mobile netw


[re: IronOld] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by IronOld:
I don't think Mr Silver Fox has any significant IT or cyber security experience to make these claims. For instance if 'BT's source code' had been breached, banking systems (etc) will have their own encryption methods.


Can you add, not understanding source code to that list. leaking source code, in itself isn't an issue -its a commerical blow. Most code can be reverse engineered. Weak parts of any code can be exploited easier if the source code is seen, but also it would be fairly easy to update. Further when i was there for a short time i saw custom software updates - updated on a daily basis.
Standard User IronOld
(newbie) Sat 01-Nov-25 09:44:26
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[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
Indeed. Clearly Silver Fox doesn't understand any of the technology. Content like that is dangerous when statements are put out to drive revenue & subscribers.

There are over a thousand comments on his video. The majority are "Keir Starmer should be taken to the tower for treason!!!" and commenting about Digital ID and privacy - all of which are irrelevant to the video and the claims he's making.

Noone, as far as I can see*, has challenged his claims - to query the source, get a reasonable indication why such 'a senior' BT source would release this information to a single YouTube influencer and dispute (eg debunk) his technical understanding & appraisal of his claim. Ultimately these channels have degrees of sensationalism (eg clickbait) without any legitimate evidence.

*Edit: ok, a few have. The comment from SteveHodgson is a good one.

The security of the Digital ID data (and potential Government overreach) is a valid discussion point. However fact checking - particularly technical & scientific - should still be something everyone does. Engage critical thinking rather than just blindly accepting what a single YouTube influencer is saying.

Based on this video from Mr Silver Fox, it unravels all his arguments & makes you question his authenticity.

Edited by IronOld (Sat 01-Nov-25 10:12:26)

Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 01-Nov-25 11:53:18
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[re: IronOld] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by IronOld:
The security of the Digital ID data (and potential Government overreach) is a valid discussion point. However fact checking - particularly technical & scientific - should still be something everyone does. Engage critical thinking rather than just blindly accepting what a single YouTube influencer is saying.


The Digital id data, storage, location and encryption is a valid point to discuss but to conflate with source makes zero sense. Decryption points etc are of importance. Remember that unless the encryption method itself is comprimised, snooping around that makes no sense, but even with end to end encryption, there points where its decrypted and stored in plain text, thats where you target etc. Also any weak points in the encryption projet and if buffer overruns and or injection allows for access.

even a 99% secure software (doesn't exist) can be exploited with a weak or unpatched system. comprimised systems can just have its encrypted data encrypted by bad actors.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 11-Nov-25 14:23:33
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[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
In fact releasing the source code can make for a more secure system as it allows various people to peer review the code and point out any potential vulnerabilities. If everyone can see the code then there will be many people looking to make it more secure (especially if those people use the services). This is what the open source community is founded on.
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