gaming profile?

Hi
Do I just ring up and ask them to put me on this? It makes my noise margin go down so I get a higher connection speed? Its stuck at this speed all the time now, but it used to be higher around 2.5 to 2.8 for a few months when I asked them to change it before, but then either new firmware or something happened and it just came down, I had some trouble when it went to MER type after a update, so I did a reset of the router and it went back to PPPOA.

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1534 kbps 605 kbps
Line Attenuation 57.5 db 33.1 db
Noise Margin 11.6 db 15.9 db

Thats from 1pm on sunday, it does get closer to 7 at peak times.
I'm sure my line attenuation used to be about 10 lower when I was with pipex a few years ago now.

The attenuation is probably higher because going by your sync rate, you are connected using ADSL2+. You may well do better on ADSL1.

Rang them up and got put on the gaming profile last night, a strange thing happened, attenuation down to 55, noise margin went up to 15.5, and connection speed up to 2mb from 1.5.

It has been connected 12 hrs now, I thought it might disconnect over night and connect me to a higher speed but no luck, I would turn off and on my router but won't incase its training the line atm,

Heres the stats

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 2048 kbps 416 kbps
Line Attenuation 55.0 db 31.5 db
Noise Margin 13.8 db 16.0 db

Might be worth ringing back and asking them if they can give the DLM a nudge as it does seem prone to sticking and other strange behaviour after changes are made to your profile.

Edited by Finguz (Fri 21-Jan-11 13:04:57)

Gaming profile removes it from DLM. The sync speed is only negotiated when the router re-syncs.

Yeah sorry I should have been more clear. A friend of mine joined shortly after I did and switched to the gaming profile. His sync dropped, so he called tech support and was told that sometimes when switching profiles ( there are quite a few, not just the single gaming profile ) it can cause DLM to reset or drop back the sync as it is removed.

While I can't guarantee that this is case here, it might be

Edited by Finguz (Fri 21-Jan-11 14:33:16)

I spoke to two onshore Sky advisor's on the phone and they didn't have a clue about the Gamer Profile. So fired up an e-mail to Sky support last night, and this morning an e-mail apologising and hey voila they changed me to the gaming profile

Great news, what's your stats look like?

This is on Sky's D-link Router:


ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 9665 kbps 604 kbps
Line Attenuation 35.0db 20.3db
Noise Margin 5.8db 16.7db

Downstream gone up but upstream speed has gone down.

I'm sure I may be able to tweak them perhaps on another router

The only goal for the gamer profile is to reduce ping times. The profile itself may reduce speeds in order to stabalise the connection and making ther perfect enviroment to stream game traffic.

The profiling method is used only on the ISAM's (MPF) Ideal for their line of work with Anytime+ and pushing quality over a shared network for their applications.

Where as the legacy DSLAM's (SMPF) used for broadband only connections use manual settings to fine tune the connection however no calls or line.

Edited by deleted (Fri 21-Jan-11 20:34:50)

In reply to a post by NationsurfUK:

The only goal for the gamer profile is to reduce ping times. The profile itself may reduce speeds in order to stabalise the connection and making ther perfect enviroment to stream game traffic.

The profiling method is used only on the ISAM's (MPF) Ideal for their line of work with Anytime+ and pushing quality over a shared network for their applications.

Where as the legacy DSLAM's (SMPF) used for broadband only connections use manual settings to fine tune the connection however no calls or line.

This is all nonsense. Why don't you stick to spamming the forums.

In reply to a post by mark777:

This is on Sky's D-link Router:


ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 9665 kbps 604 kbps
Line Attenuation 35.0db 20.3db
Noise Margin 5.8db 16.7db

Downstream gone up but upstream speed has gone down.

I'm sure I may be able to tweak them perhaps on another router

Looks like you have a problem with noise on your line. 35dB should give you 13Mb but your noise margin is limiting your speed.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

This is all nonsense. Why don't you stick to spamming the forums.

Therefore, if you have sky broadband but no phone, you wont have an ISAM, with profiles (and the Gamer profile). You'll have a stinger DSLAM with manual control.

Call Sky's customer solutions team or ask on their forums.

In reply to a post by NationsurfUK:

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

This is all nonsense. Why don't you stick to spamming the forums.

Therefore, if you have sky broadband but no phone, you wont have an ISAM, with profiles (and the Gamer profile). You'll have a stinger DSLAM with manual control.

Got a link for that or are you making it up?

Don't know about ISAMS but Yeah the SMPF connections are controlled by DSLAM'S and sky tech for some reason only have limited options available to them,for whatever the reason, so preventing custom profiles that suite both line conditions &user requests , ie a 4db snr profile with fast path enabled (zero interleave/delay)unlike the sky offerings, oh and dlm can also be disabled and sra can be utilised but they won't do that either, it's either company policy or that they are not given total control as uko were

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 22-Jan-11 00:22:31)

Example A - Public Knowledge -

lucent DSLAM

(Stingers) or the complete SVBN ISAM's

Example B - Public Knowledge
Sky Voice and Broadband Network (SVBN) MPF (Line, Calls & BB)
non Sky Voice and Broadband Network (non-SVBN) (BB LLU Only) or Connect for BT ADSL

Example C - Public Knowledge
non-SVBN (Stingers) manual settings aka, sync speeds, SNR, max delay, interleading, ADSL2+ or G.DMT.

SVBN (ISAMs) have profiles. Set SNR values to Set speed / impulse noise protection settings (via interleaving, thus cannot be turned off)

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by mark777:

This is on Sky's D-link Router:


ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 9665 kbps 604 kbps
Line Attenuation 35.0db 20.3db
Noise Margin 5.8db 16.7db

Downstream gone up but upstream speed has gone down.

I'm sure I may be able to tweak them perhaps on another router

Looks like you have a problem with noise on your line. 35dB should give you 13Mb but your noise margin is limiting your speed.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll do some investigating into the matter.

In reply to a post by NationsurfUK:

Example A - Public Knowledge -

lucent DSLAM

(Stingers) or the complete SVBN ISAM's

Example B - Public Knowledge
Sky Voice and Broadband Network (SVBN) MPF (Line, Calls & BB)
non Sky Voice and Broadband Network (non-SVBN) (BB LLU Only) or Connect for BT ADSL

Example C - Public Knowledge
non-SVBN (Stingers) manual settings aka, sync speeds, SNR, max delay, interleading, ADSL2+ or G.DMT.

SVBN (ISAMs) have profiles. Set SNR values to Set speed / impulse noise protection settings (via interleaving, thus cannot be turned off)

Sorry, you're going to have to do a lot better than posting links to another forum to try and justify your "knowledge". Some 3rd-party technical details would be better. Joker

The old exchange kit (easynet) is mostly globespan,Info on easynet dslam's sky/uko hence why any router with a conexant solos chipset in it will get a higher sync rate as it is more compatible with the dslams,
And as an ex ukonline customer i know ,quite a lot about the exchange kit i was connected to, so basically if you are a sky customer and don't pay sky line rental you will be on the older dslams which are globespan (conexant) and its address will look similar to this one "cr0.**********.uk.easynet.net" which for those who may not know is the 1st hop from your router (using tracert)

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 22-Jan-11 00:55:48)

The newly LLU'ed exchanges (2010 - onwards) do not have the old Easynet DSLAM's they have the new ISAMs.

When i rang Sky to get the gaming profile they told me that the new exchanges were all new ISAM's.


My line is SMPF and my fisrt hop usually is "dr4.enlba.isp.sky.com"

It has been said tthat these new isams are also broadcom chipped, as well some being lucent alcatel