Sky Router won't work before broadband migration? Really?

I'm due to migrate to Sky on Monday. I thought I'd take a look at the router last night, so connected it to a PC, but could not connect to it at all.

I phoned up Sky who said, until the router makes contact over ADSL (on Monday) it will not work?

Really? Sounds a bit odd to me!?

As long as you already have ADSL, you should be able to connect it to ADSL line as well as PC, and it should sync with exchange, altho' not connect to Net. You should then be able to login to it and see its stats. User/pwd usually "admin/admin" or maybe one of them is "sky".

I was sent a Sky locked router in error, when I thought I bought a generic Netgear, and it sync'ed OK with my Orange line and showed my normal stats.

But what I'm confused about, is why I couldn't even get to a logon screen? ie: Without it connected to ADSL? Does something magical take place the first time it's connected to the internet?

I'd certainly expect to be able to connect to any (other) router if no ADSL was available for example!?

In reply to a post by NeilFawcett:

But what I'm confused about, is why I couldn't even get to a logon screen? ie: Without it connected to ADSL? Does something magical take place the first time it's connected to the internet?

Yes, the router is configured the first time it connects to Sky. This realisation led to the password-hacking site.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by NeilFawcett:

But what I'm confused about, is why I couldn't even get to a logon screen? ie: Without it connected to ADSL? Does something magical take place the first time it's connected to the internet?

Yes, the router is configured the first time it connects to Sky. This realisation led to the password-hacking site.

Aha! OK! I'll leave it till Monday then!

Many thanks!

Going to be interesting to see how the speed/pings compare to my current O2 connection

I have the Sagem modem and I could logon without connecting to any ADSL service, you need to make sure your computers network card is on the same network, ie 192.168.0.xx or 192.168.2.xx depending on what the router is set to as I'm not sure if it has its DHCP server running by default.

Hmmm... Aha!

My current (O2) router is 192.168.1.254, and my PC is hardcoded to:-
IP Address: 192.168.1.99
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.1.254

Is that going to be the (simple) reason it cannot liaise with 192.168.0.1?

Yes, set it to auto

I need it to have a specific IP address, so on Monday I'll change it to:-
IP Address: 192.168.0.99
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
Default gateway: 192.168.0.1


Can't believe I over looked that - Doh!

You may find you need to set to to auto just once so you can connect to the router to reconfigure it's DHCP settings.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

You may find you need to set to to auto just once so you can connect to the router to reconfigure it's DHCP settings.

You can, and you can also disable DHCP on the Sky Netgear and Sagem routers that I've used.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

Yes, the router is configured the first time it connects to Sky. This realisation led to the password-hacking site.

Yes, the router is configured to the Sky BB login credentials the first time it connects to Sky. That is what the password-hacking sites are for obtaining. However, that has nothing to do with the router's own Web-interface login credentials, which any PC can address, as I did on my Orange connection.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

Yes, the router is configured the first time it connects to Sky. This realisation led to the password-hacking site.

Yes, the router is configured to the Sky BB login credentials the first time it connects to Sky. That is what the password-hacking sites are for obtaining.

As I said

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

As I said

But not the whole truth and not what the OP was asking, i.e. logging into router

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

As I said

But not the whole truth and not what the OP was asking, i.e. logging into router

Well, if you check back, you'll see it was the answer to a question asked. But anyway, the whole story has been brought out now, so everyone is happy