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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 09-May-13 17:40:03
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Hi

Hope you can help.

My niece has moved in with a friend and they currently have no broadband.

Previously up until the end of April they had Sky broadband and phone which I believe expired the end of April.

I am looking to set up a new contract in my name for them but I have questions:

1: When the contract expired did the sky phone line deactivate or have a cease order placed on it ? i.e new line and charge If i set up a new contract?

2: When I place the order online can I just give the address where they live and not the phone number? The reason is that they swear they never used the landline and are saying they have no idea what the tel number is or was



thanks
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(staff) Thu 09-May-13 17:53:19
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1. Contracts don't usually expire, after minimum term they jump to 30 day notice contracts usually. So someone must have either told Sky to stop it, or not paid or something else. Which of this will determine if just turned off or a full cease placed.

2. If no dialtone on the phone, then all you can do is give the address Probably will be considered a new line provide (to get it reconnected at the exchange) so check costs. If there are debts attached may be more problematic

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(deleted) Thu 09-May-13 18:16:50
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Thanks. That's really useful to know.


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(deleted) Fri 10-May-13 16:14:11
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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Fri 10-May-13 17:01:56
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
I am happy with the service personally I just wish my upload was more. (796kbps) but I have to live with it until I move. Makes Skype video calls rather awkward and I can just about stream Netflix.

What's the upstream noise margin? If it's well above 6 dB might be worth them restarting line training.

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(deleted) Fri 10-May-13 17:26:12
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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Fri 10-May-13 17:26:54
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
15.15db it says

It's solid connection been up 187 hours since DLM ended.

Way too high, I'd request line training to be restarted.

Oliver.
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(deleted) Fri 10-May-13 19:43:53
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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Fri 10-May-13 20:15:34
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
even though I am about 2KM from exchange?

Yes, plenty of spare noise margin there for extra speed.

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(deleted) Fri 10-May-13 20:25:07
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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Fri 10-May-13 20:37:24
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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
Thanks ill give them a call now smile

Let us know how you get on. The DLM has been improved so hopefully it is smart enough to give you some extra upload but it could take a few days and will start off slower.

Oliver.
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(deleted) Fri 10-May-13 20:41:20
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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Fri 10-May-13 20:47:34
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Fair enough. I probably would have pressed them on it since I wouldn't be happy with such a large noise margin. I'm not even 100% happy with my own 9.9 dB upstream margin but I don't think their DLM will put it any lower.

Oliver.
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(staff) Fri 10-May-13 22:34:54
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From the statistics no evidence that the BT wiring is holding you back.

If it was you would be getting a lot less than an 8 Meg sync at 43dB attenuation, and the spare noise margin on upstream is the Sky DLM capping you.

Sky DLM is known for favouring stable over absolute speed. If you wanted absolute speed it used to be BE.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 11-May-13 16:42:21
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Are you expecting the BQM to be flat and green when you are actually doing stuff like downloading files?

If you want that, then you need to implement QoS on your router and prioritise ICMP packets.

To see latency wise when downloading or uploading is normal. i.e. your graph shows your computer finishing something around 3am, and probably a big download between 10:30 and 11:30 pm

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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(deleted) Sat 11-May-13 18:41:28
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 11-May-13 21:10:03
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You mean its only a flat green line when you are idle, which is exactly what you would expect


IRC assuming just a chat room and not file downloads is pretty low data volume

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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Tue 14-May-13 09:07:04
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Result. smile

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(staff) Tue 14-May-13 09:30:14
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Are you sure it is tracking the right IP address? Sky IP are dynamic, so might be monitoring someone else by now.

Looks like web browsing with some short file downloads in the few hours up to 4pm.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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(deleted) Tue 14-May-13 15:13:42
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 14-May-13 16:08:54
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Sky answer to instability will be to slow the sync down.

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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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