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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Jun-11 22:51:41
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


[re: Oliver341] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
That's not what it says here http://www.netheaven.com/pmtu.html

From that page: "notifications arrive as ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol) packets known as "fragmentation needed" ICMPs (ICMP type 3, subtype 4)".

ICMP Echo is ICMP type 0 and 8, Reply and Request, completely separate to ICMP type 3 used for Path MTU Discovery.
From that page
Administrators who want to block all ICMPs should disable path MTU discovery on their computers, especially on their servers. It makes no sense to ask for ICMP notifications and then refuse to accept them. In addition, doing so opens the server to a special type of distributed denial of service attack based on resource exhaustion from a large number of fully-open connections.
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 16-Jun-11 22:57:28
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
From that page
Administrators who want to block all ICMPs should disable path MTU discovery on their computers, especially on their servers. It makes no sense to ask for ICMP notifications and then refuse to accept them. In addition, doing so opens the server to a special type of distributed denial of service attack based on resource exhaustion from a large number of fully-open connections.

Yes, but disabling ping replies on routers does not disable all type of ICMP, just the ones dealing with ICMP Echo.

Oliver.
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(deleted) Thu 16-Jun-11 23:02:44
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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Yes, but disabling ping replies on routers does not disable all type of ICMP, just the ones dealing with ICMP Echo.
The OP wants to disable all type of ICMP.


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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 16-Jun-11 23:05:45
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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The OP wants to disable all type of ICMP.

If you say so, BatBoy.

Oliver.
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(deleted) Thu 16-Jun-11 23:15:04
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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He wants to be invisible on the net to stop script kiddies hacking his computer ooo
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Fri 17-Jun-11 20:16:22
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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Yes, but disabling ping replies on routers does not disable all type of ICMP, just the ones dealing with ICMP Echo.


That's what you'd hope. Without actually testing, I've seen some routers (remotely, so not sure what they were) that ignored ALL ICMP when the owner told me they'd "blocked ping". Including all the useful ones :-/

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
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(deleted) Fri 17-Jun-11 21:42:20
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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I suppose to test this you could run 1 week with pings on and 1 week off, and then see how many intrusions from china you get in the logs.

BTW. syslog is borked on the sky d-link and probably the sagem, plus I already know what the results will be tongue

Battyboy can test this, he likes intrusions blush

Edited by deleted (Fri 17-Jun-11 21:45:09)

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(deleted) Fri 17-Jun-11 21:58:38
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Everything here seems a lot more settled with pings enabled and a static ip. It just works, but I'm on BE. I moved from Sky to BE due to problems with loss of routing.
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Sat 18-Jun-11 00:25:11
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Re: MER / MTU / Respond to Ping???


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BTW. syslog is borked on the sky d-link and probably the sagem, plus I already know what the results will be tongue


No, you have an untested hypothesis.

I just suggested you try it. You've argued you don't want it. Its no skin off my nose at all, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. End of topic.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM

Edited by jchamier (Sat 18-Jun-11 00:25:24)

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(deleted) Sat 18-Jun-11 08:59:34
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Theres one born every minute, so why do they have to post in my thread?
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