Until a few weeks ago when my noise margin went to 9, I normally had a sync speed between 4000 and 4300ish with a noise margin of 6.

The only problem with that is, that since the beginning of the month, you must now move your line rental to Sky to get broadband. So I assume a quick move back would not then be possible if I didn't like it with Sky.

In reply to a post by soapysoutar:

The only problem with that is, that since the beginning of the month, you must now move your line rental to Sky to get broadband. So I assume a quick move back would not then be possible if I didn't like it with Sky.

I f you did move to sky and later where unhappy and wanted to move back things wouldn't be as quick as it would if you only had the bb with a llu isp AKA:shared metallic path facility(SMPF)
1, it is not part of the normal MAC process,
2 you would have to use a process known as return to donor with bt this would involve a re connection charge unless you took a calling plan , this can take in some cases 2 weeks before bb can be ordered again
Also some people have reported that they have lost their original number, the same process would be necessary with talk talk or any other fully unbundled isp thank's to the useless quango called ofcom that should of made talktalk and sky subscribe to the mac code system for customers who are fully llu'd,

In reply to a post by soapysoutar:

I'm on the Home 30 (20CN) package. My exchange (ESNML) does not have 21CN WBC. It is only in the last few months that LLU has come to the exchange, first Talk Talk, now Sky.
From what I can find there is no plans to move the exchange to 21CN or fibre.

My concern is that I have read that LLU (ADSL2+?) can reduce your connection speed. Can Sky LLU offer either ADSL or ADSL2+. In other words if the 'newer' technology is not good for me, can they drop back to the older technology?

ADSL2+ can reduce your speed if you are on very long lines. but it also depends on who is supplying the service.

As i said, when Bt changed to their new system, my sync speed here went right down as they put me ADSL2+, even when they changed things it made little difference.

when i went onto the network I am on now, it was still ADSL2+, but I got 2Megabits more than what I got with BT.

It also depends on your router as well, my speedtouch knocks the SNR down to 5, so I get a faster sync speed, but the Netgear keeps it at 9.

The problem with Bt system is that as soon as you turn the router off for any reason, and turn it back on the system thinks that you have problems and mucks it all up again.

No dynamic line management for me or profiling as Bt calls it, which is one of the other reason I am staying where i am, as other LLU services seem to have this DLM

Just read this post from ADSL24 that says going back to BT isn't as bad as before and it can now be done for a £4.99 fee instead of return to donor. They also say that a simultaneous adls re- provide can be done, or am I reading it incorrectly?