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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jul-12 17:25:46
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Re: Moving to Sky LLU


[re: wolvesmad] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by wolvesmad:
I don't like how the DLM caps the sync speed, so to speak.

I totally agree, for almost all poor lines setting a target margin of 15 dB will keep it stable. Setting the target noise margin is a more elegant solution, which is why pretty much every other ISP does it that way.

For poor lines, the DLM synch caps can be vicious, caps of a few 100 kbps on lines supporting a couple of meg are not uncommon.

Oliver.
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jul-12 17:42:44
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Re: Moving to Sky LLU


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And just to add, even a 6 dB margin is adequate for poor lines in many cases. Take this example:

- line synchs to 6 dB target margin while the line is "quiet"
- noise causes line to drop, line resynchs at a "noisy" 6 dB margin
- line conditions improve, noise margin jumps to 15 dB with no further loss of synch

So the line sits at a noise margin of 15 dB even though the target margin is set to 6 dB, which gives plenty of spare margin to mitigate another noise event.

Setting hard synch caps completely removes the "elegance" of this behaviour.

Oliver.
Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 01-Aug-12 15:41:29
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Re: Moving to Sky LLU


[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
I get around 6500 but that's with me forcing the line to ADSL2 on a 3db SNR.

If the line switches to ADSL2+ it tumbles down to around 4500 due to the night time drop outs.

The fact I can't force the modulation mode on Sky means I will probably give them a miss until the area gets fiber.

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Xilo.net Office 21CN


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