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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 26-Jan-13 15:14:55
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Re: Sky's loss leading catches up on them


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My costs were only indicative. My point is that some users download lots and ruin it for others. Why should users download 300 GB and those that only download 50GB pay the same?

There must be some way to make it fairer?

I used to have a 2GB limit which was usually more than enough but on the odd occasion (Win updates) I would go over and be charged extra. For £2 less / mnth I have unlimited download but still use less than 2GB on average.

Perhaps it is the society we now live in than wants something for very little.

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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Sat 26-Jan-13 15:23:06
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Re: Sky's loss leading catches up on them


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In reply to a post by broadband66:
My costs were only indicative. My point is that some users download lots and ruin it for others. Why should users download 300 GB and those that only download 50GB pay the same?

There must be some way to make it fairer?

Umm, yes. One (cheaper) package with a 50Gb limit, and one (more expensive) package which is unlimited.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 26-Jan-13 17:20:26
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Re: Sky's loss leading catches up on them


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there is isp's that suit what you want, look at aaisp. Thats as close to PAYG I have seen on broadband.

Sky dont appear to have a major issue with viability of their service, the amount of exchanges affected is tiny compared to the total they have and sky have already announced fixed dates that are under 2 months. So its a temporary issue.

For the majority of people 2 gig is very inadequate now days. I am not a heavy user and I use 2 gig a day a lot of days probably.

In all honesty if you only using 2 gig a month you dont even need a FTTC connection. PAYG 3G will do it when you wouldnt even have a monthly sub, just fully usage based charging.

The very nature broadband is sold is unfair, eg. many have argued for several years the nature of 'up to' is unfair but its how the market is, its driven by customer demand. What you are asking for is out of fashion on the mass market and sky is a mass market isp.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - Estimate 65.9/20 - Attainable peak 110/36 - Current Sync 71/20

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 26-Jan-13 17:26:35)


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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 27-Jan-13 16:46:02
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Re: Sky's loss leading catches up on them


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3G is expensive and the speed is rubbish unless camped out under the mast.

To be honest I don't care anymore. £4.50/month and truly unlimited. I can even stream HD content to my TV via the laptop with no buffering on an upto 16mbps.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 27-Jan-13 16:55:28
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2gig usage on 3G wont be that expensive, it seems you a bit of count the pennies guy, cant really help you.

and at £4.50 a month also how low do you expect it to go?

plus you wont be doing much streaming for 2 gig, this I dont understand in your posts, if you stream even semi regurly your usage will top 2 gig easily.

BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - Estimate 65.9/20 - Attainable peak 110/36 - Current Sync 71/20
Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 28-Jan-13 11:09:07
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I'm happy to pay for what I use and I do count the £ssssss. Like we all do.

It seems like others want to count the pennies and get as much as they can for very little hence they download as much as they can and then complain when things slow down.

I don't stream much as I have Sky+ and a PVR so have the ability to record.

No help required, but thanks anyway.

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Standard User dave2150
(experienced) Mon 28-Jan-13 19:12:16
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Re: Sky's loss leading catches up on them


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In reply to a post by broadband66:
My costs were only indicative. My point is that some users download lots and ruin it for others. Why should users download 300 GB and those that only download 50GB pay the same?

There must be some way to make it fairer?

I used to have a 2GB limit which was usually more than enough but on the odd occasion (Win updates) I would go over and be charged extra. For £2 less / mnth I have unlimited download but still use less than 2GB on average.

Perhaps it is the society we now live in than wants something for very little.


Using less than 2gb a month? Even my grandparents use more than that, both are over 80 and worked out how to use youtube and skype.

What rock are you living under exactly?

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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 28-Jan-13 21:26:27
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And what's on YouTube that's so great? Can't they afford a phone?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 28-Jan-13 22:19:37
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And what's on YouTube that's so great? Can't they afford a phone?


You've a phone that does decent quality video calls and costs less than a few Skype sessions?

There's tons on YouTube that's great, even on mobiles:

In Europe, YouTube represents more than 20% of peak period downstream traffic on mobile networks


The web is becoming the method of choice for video to many:

Mean monthly data usage has increased by 120% from 23GB to 51GB in the past year on North American fixed line networks [51GB is equivalent to 81 hours of video]


Netflix dominates North American fixed networks accounting for 33% of peak period downstream traffic


Welcome to the future, where content is on demand, delivered to a device of your choice, available wherever you are and whenever you want it.

Edited by deleted (Mon 28-Jan-13 22:21:25)

Standard User NilSatisOptimum
(committed) Mon 28-Jan-13 22:30:30
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Hey what about Blockbusters!

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