In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

imo google have never played fair.

frequently google sites stop working right on browsers that arent chrome, firefox catchup fast but Ie can be broken for months or more

their entire android platform is designed around a cloud thats google based. so its not just using a generic email account to register they expect you to use a gmail account. as it ties in with other google services as well.

Google only bought and pushed Android as they wanted to control the advertising on mobile devices - as people move from PC/laptop to mobile. Google only cares about selling advertising.

Whereas Nokia, Apple and Blackberry care about selling product, and Microsoft cares about selling software (well did, now they're trying to copy, Google and Apple and failing at both).

yeah watching microsoft is just sad, they just blatantly copying, even abandoning their own software in the process.

I assume is advantages for google for people to use chrome, else why develop the product. Chrome itself is what has been pushing the cloud platform with it been the first browser designed to run web apps amongst other things.

Similiar thing is been done with android as well.

If people use the cloud, store their data in the cloud, then thats data for google to harvest which could aid advertising amongst other things.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

yeah watching microsoft is just sad, they just blatantly copying, even abandoning their own software in the process.

and abandoning the enterprise market will cost them a lot in the long run, and closing technet is an accounting decision that forgets lots of home users 'grew up' with these tools and caused big sales in companies. They forget Linux is here (e.g. RedHat Enterprise, SuSE etc) and the LAMP stack is easy to trial and learn on home kit.

I assume is advantages for google for people to use chrome, else why develop the product. Chrome itself is what has been pushing the cloud platform with it been the first browser designed to run web apps amongst other things.

Chrome stops other browser makers from including Google Ad filters.

Similiar thing is been done with android as well.
If people use the cloud, store their data in the cloud, then thats data for google to harvest which could aid advertising amongst other things.

Of course you can use non Google clouds, and split data between cloud companies too. Corporates can use clouds from the likes of IBM and Amazon's S3 services and of course MS Azure

As stated Sky's T&C only apply to the @sky.com email address not the underlying Google email address.

If anyone is stupid enough to use the underlying Google account linked to the Sky address for anything then that's their lookout after all Sky let everyone know that they were dumping Google and it's pretty obvious that the associate Google accounts would be deleted after the transition.

In reply to a post by simon194:

If anyone is stupid enough to use the underlying Google account linked to the Sky address for anything then that's their lookout after all Sky let everyone know that they were dumping Google and it's pretty obvious that the associate Google accounts would be deleted after the transition.

Sky email addresses have automatically been associated with a Google Account for years, long before any rumours of a switch to Yahoo.

Also, if one had attempted to sign their Sky address up for a Google Account over the last few years (a perfectly normal thing to want to do since not everyone has or wants an @gmail.com address), they would be told their email address already has a Google Account. How was the customer supposed to know it was provisioned via Google Apps and will be deleted when Sky's association with Google ends?

So I don't think it was "obvious" at all, and I don't regard the affected customers as "stupid".

Another good reason to register your own domain which can be used to set up a play store account as I've done with mine on my Galaxy Ace 2

In reply to a post by broadband66:

"In this case Sky look to have cancelled the Google Apps accounts of their users. Oops."

Is this a Sky issue and not a Google issue as some posters have stated?

Depends on your point of view, Sky look to have used Google apps to provide email to their sky.com email users without making it clear to those users that these weren't standard Google accounts (it might frighten the horses).

As Google's services have evolved the capabilities of the two types of account have wandered about, most recently I have had to dig people out who couldn't renew paid for Google apps services because they had used the apps email address on Google Play (which didn't even exist when they set up the email I suspect). Google required them to split the accounts and create a new identity or similar.

So a Sky user thinking it was "just an email address" using it in Google land bumped into Google thinking it was an apps email address which is different - not least in the support and admin being in Sky's hands and in there being limitations with some services.

In reply to a post by techguy:

Another good reason to register your own domain which can be used to set up a play store account as I've done with mine on my Galaxy Ace 2

but presumably not to register it with Google via Apps

In reply to a post by yarwell:

So a Sky user thinking it was "just an email address" using it in Google land bumped into Google thinking it was an apps email address which is different - not least in the support and admin being in Sky's hands and in there being limitations with some services.

The problem being Google Play which for some unknown reason uses more detail about a google account than just the email address. So anyone who uses Google Apps and then moved to a different provider (e.g. MS Office 365) could lose all their Android apps. If they are an Apple or Microsoft user then they don't - er, Google, why on earth?

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

yeah watching microsoft is just sad, they just blatantly copying, even abandoning their own software in the process.

You clearly don't use much of it then - I wouldn't consider the insane number of improvements in Server 2012 and Server 2012 R2 as them abandoning anything.