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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 25-Nov-13 12:04:02
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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In reply to a post by dsergeant:
My username has a number in front of the o2broadband.co.uk bit instead of 'install'. So migrations are now happening...

That's interesting. Perhaps the username in front of the o2broadband.co.uk bit doesn't matter, and it can be anything.

Oliver.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 25-Nov-13 16:13:22
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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Slightly off-topic Could anyone moved from O2 LLU to SKY let me know what SNR is set by Sky. I was on 6db and I requested a drop down to 3db (for more speed) where my line remains stable for at least 2 weeks before a re-train by the Technicolor O2 router supplied by O2 last year. This SNR /Line speed/ Re-train rate/ is acceptable by me.

I have been told that Sky puts everyone on a 12db SNR regardless of line quality and a 9db change will badly reduce my line speed and is needed nor necessary.
Current values:
Line length about 3.1 KM SNR 3db Download speed 6.3 Meg-bits-second:
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 25-Nov-13 16:21:01
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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What margin you end up on depends on the DLM.

I am on a 41dB line and managing 7 Mbps out of speed tests. Line length around 3.5 to 4.5km depending on how wobbly the ducting is.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.


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Standard User dsergeant
(member) Mon 25-Nov-13 18:01:35
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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Sky set the SNR to 7dB against O2 with 6dB. That is what mine is connecting at, giving a slightly slower rate (currently 8.9Mbs against the 9.5Mbs it had on O2 for a record 105 days up time). I don't think you can ask Sky to change it like you used to on O2. I see the upload rate has dropped to around 900kbs as against the usual O2 1.1Mbs, whether this is normal or not I don't know.
After all the chatter about when and if migration would happen it was all pretty painless. Since it occured at 3am I was not even aware of it until mid morning when I happened to visit the beuser site (which has had useful information about the takeover) and saw it showed me with a Sky connection and IP. VERY painless.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 25-Nov-13 19:13:28
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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Typically Sky DLM sets noise margin to 6 dB, 3 dB if you're lucky, above 6 dB if your line is very poor.

Manual staff intervention is hard to achieve these days, and in most cases they cannot set it to a lower target SNRM than DLM can anyway (usually 7 dB).

Oliver.
Standard User simon194
(committed) Wed 27-Nov-13 15:46:51
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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I see the upload rate has dropped to around 900kbs as against the usual O2 1.1Mbs, whether

It's normal, Sky usually cap the upload speed to 1Mbps.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 28-Nov-13 00:07:32
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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It's normal, Sky usually cap the upload speed to 1Mbps.

DLM is more generous these days, my upload stands at 1,212 kbps. Upload speeds are artificially tethered to the download speed profile though, which is a shame, since in many cases it leaves the upload with too much noise margin.

Oliver.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Nov-13 08:43:40
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Re: O2 Wireless Box working on Sky


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That's interesting. Perhaps the username in front of the o2broadband.co.uk bit doesn't matter, and it can be anything.

I just tried this PPPoA user/pass on Sky:

username: [email protected]
password: apple

Works just fine.

Oliver.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 30-Nov-13 15:00:33
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I've "hacked" my O2 box to pass through all the data straight to my separate router (ASUS RT-N16), turned off it's wi-fi and all the unneccessary stuff, any views on whether that's likely to work as it does now when migrate to Sky??...asuming they do it before Feb 2014 when i might be off somewhere else anyway.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Nov-13 15:14:06
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In reply to a post by ianfuture:
I've "hacked" my O2 box to pass through all the data straight to my separate router (ASUS RT-N16), turned off it's wi-fi and all the unneccessary stuff, any views on whether that's likely to work as it does now when migrate to Sky??

If the O2 router is handling the PPPoA authentication then it will work fine.

Oliver.
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