In reply to a post by fireants:

and who cares about non haggling customers?

Well, you should since they subsidise your broadband. If everyone haggled for yearly retention deals, the deals would very likely become a lot less generous.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

.. If everyone haggled for yearly retention deals, the deals would very likely become a lot less generous.

Exactly! Make retention deals illegal and offer "one price, per service, for all". Far more transparency in pricing and a fairer deal for all.

Awww, the poor ISPs handing out loss making deals, too the point where they are subsidised by non haggling (and trapped) customers. Bless one and all!

Think it is more why buy a cow, if you get you milk for free scenario though. Nice to extract that extra money even if it cost a bit more and is less profitable than feeding existing heard.

In reply to a post by fireants:

.....and who cares about non haggling customers?

The non-haggling customers are most likely the elderly, (brought up when manners counted), and the most vulnerable.

You feel OK with them subsidising your wants?

I googled Fuel. Its ads looked promising. Reasonable price for someone whom does not use the phone. It could have been the company I was after. Possibly another Freedom2surf in its heyday? Even would stay long term for a few quid extra a month, if the service was any good.

However after a good poke around I heard bad comments, very bad comments, and nothing positive. Told to google 'Primus'. I even put a few questions on its public forum but no answers. Even the very few, and simple questions that others asked that were answered took many days to get a response, if they ever got one.

Even with my unanswered post I thought they will kill since it is a few weeks old, but it is left to display their indifference.

In reply to a post by professor973:

Well I haven't seen a link, though that is just the sort of snotty drivel I would expect for a reply here. The link is direct to their site, with NO referral links that I can see.

Strange you haven't seen a link, since you're the one that posted it. So not really "snotty drivel", but you're welcome to your uninformed opinion of course.

Hover your mouse over the link and you'll see "?source=aw&awc=3552_1417035487_742da982eeb210fa31405718103eddf4" - which is a variable embedded within the link to make sure affiliate commission goes to the right affiliate.

If you haven't actually seen it before, you can see how it works here: https://darwin.affiliatewindow.com/merchant-profile/...

Edited by Oliver341 (Sun 28-Dec-14 16:12:22)

I can't speak for fireants, but we, the end user have little control how Sky run its business. Perhaps it is a question you should ask Sky, and why they operate such business practices?

I have done my bit and am moving away soon, thought afterwards fear the pensioners will still be paying the same and will also not have moved.

My next goal is in February is to get a colleague who earns part time approx £6200 per year (her only job), and tempted by a sky person, foolishly paid about £86 a month for fibre and films, but does not watch them, to go to normal adsl

LOL Neil....You are talking to a pensioner (me) and actually being rather impolite by suggesting that because I'm old I don't have the ability to look after myself. Get real...there's a Tory government in Westminster and the world is run by financiers (and isn't Sky owned by Mr Murdoch?) Why not take a swipe at them rather than poor old vulnerable people like me who just want cheap broadband to keep in touch with our loved ones from our sheltered housing unit

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In reply to a post by JonDav:

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

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I keep hearing this rumour yet sky have yet to ring me once since I cancelled my sky tv package years ago.

I was referring to the present day, not years ago.

the same rumour existed years ago.

In my case it is fact, not a rumour.

Sky did ring me and give me a deal.

In reply to a post by Stevenage_Neil:

Personally, I believe "retention deals" should be made illegal. A Service is a Service and the cheapskates/misers should not be subsidised by the unknowing/unwilling to haggle, honest citizens who would pay a fair price for the Service they require. So called "retention deals" just put up the price for the non-hagglers. With no "retention deals" we would see honest price competition across the board, and fair to all.

What would be next on your list to stop "deals" on?

Maybe stop shops from offering lower prices than their competitors to attract customers?

Perhaps ban Amazon for undercutting others?

Stop those petrol stations that offer lower fuel prices from doing that?

Do you avail yourself to any "deals" on shopping or petrol? If you do, then you are "guilty" of being a cheapskate/miser by your own definition.