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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 23-Feb-16 08:41:45
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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Yeah its duel band but essential if you want to get the best out of Sky Q apparently.i would much prefer to use my Netgear which looks like a much better product.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Feb-16 09:36:44
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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That didn't used to work on sky fibre as they had MER authentication which was not supported by most routers.

Can you elaborate - I would consider switching back in future (cheaper no doubt) if I could ditch the sky equipment easily eg with a hg612. Are they no longer using MER?

Edited by ukhardy07 (Tue 23-Feb-16 09:38:10)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 23-Feb-16 09:46:07
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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Not sure what you mean about "didn't used to work". It's always worked.

When Openreach did managed installs for Sky, you got an Openreach modem which you plugged the Sky router into. Since Sky started supplying the router with a built-in modem, you could still plug it into the Openreach modem instead.

If you want to use an unlocked HG612 as a modem/router, there is a way of making the MER connection by running a command to the HG612, but it's not persistent so you have to rerun it on a resync. http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4466337-hua...


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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 23-Feb-16 14:09:03
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
That didn't used to work on sky fibre as they had MER authentication which was not supported by most routers.

Can you elaborate - I would consider switching back in future (cheaper no doubt) if I could ditch the sky equipment easily eg with a hg612. Are they no longer using MER?


MER is just DHCP with a username/password in an optional field. Some other routers do support it. You can either extract or calculate the username/password combination. Have a search. Asus routers with merlin firmware for example. ADSL users on Sky get PPPoA still.

I see IPv6 working on my mates Sky ADSL last weekend.

The Sky Q router is dual band, with AC wireless and has homeplug built in so the main SkyQ box and the MiniQ boxes can communicate over homeplug, WiFi or ethernet connection - all built in. (no wonder they're so expensive).

plusnet unlimited fibre 80/20 since 2 Jun 14 / Sync 6th Nov: 58,280/10,784 kbps with G.INP
16 years UK broadband (Since 1999 ntl:cable trial), Asus RT-AC68U & HG612 - BQM - Flash Speedtest - HTML Speedtest
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 23-Feb-16 14:38:45
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Not sure what you mean about "didn't used to work". It's always worked.

When Openreach did managed installs for Sky, you got an Openreach modem which you plugged the Sky router into. Since Sky started supplying the router with a built-in modem, you could still plug it into the Openreach modem instead.

If you want to use an unlocked HG612 as a modem/router, there is a way of making the MER connection by running a command to the HG612, but it's not persistent so you have to rerun it on a resync. http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4466337-hua...


Hello,

It all depends on the router, some firmware have MER available. If using ASUS for example if you use merlins firmware you can use MER authentication.

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/extracting-sky-router...
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-h...

Not sure about Netgear however, perhaps if it supports 3rd party firmware like Shibby Tomato etc.

Thanks
Sam
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 23-Feb-16 15:07:08
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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In reply to a post by ansam:
Not sure about Netgear however, perhaps if it supports 3rd party firmware like Shibby Tomato etc.

The latest Netgear routers support sending DHCP identifier strings (options 60 and 61) over WAN, so they will support Sky fibre without installing third party firmware.

Oliver.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Feb-16 16:24:53
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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Around 2011/2012 when sky fibre was brand new, I was part of the fibre testing team... There was not a single router I could find that supported the MER out of the box which sky used apart from a Draytek which was a small fortune.

There were options such as DDWRT and I did use them for a while.

I guess significant advancements have been made since then which is brilliant. It's good to see this working out of the box now especially on netgear devices.

Finally - do all customers get the Q hub or just people subscribing to sky Q TV?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 23-Feb-16 16:44:25
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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So what equipment were you provided with? Modem and Sky router or all in one Sky modem/router?

Edited by deleted (Tue 23-Feb-16 17:22:20)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 23-Feb-16 18:00:33
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
So what equipment were you provided with? Modem and Sky router or all in one Sky modem/router?

OpenReach no longer issue modems, and shortly will no longer support - Andrew had an article about it on the main site last week. Sky have been doing all-in-one modem/router for VDSL since the second iteration of the Sky hub.

plusnet unlimited fibre 80/20 since 2 Jun 14 / Sync 6th Nov: 58,280/10,784 kbps with G.INP
16 years UK broadband (Since 1999 ntl:cable trial), Asus RT-AC68U & HG612 - BQM - Flash Speedtest - HTML Speedtest
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Tue 23-Feb-16 19:31:02
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Re: New to Sky Fibre ?


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A number of Billion routers (8800 and 8900 series) do and TPlink are planning support as well.
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