TalkTalk do not care about your credentials more proof

Here is evidence of my latest findings

http://www.avgthreatlabs.com/sitereports/domain/talk...

JavaScript Obfuscation

Obfuscation (software)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In software development, obfuscation is the deliberate act of creating obfuscated code, i.e. source or machine code that is difficult for humans to understand.
Programmers may deliberately obfuscate code to conceal its purpose (security through obscurity) or its logic, in order to prevent tampering, deter reverse engineering, or as a puzzle or recreational challenge for someone reading the source code.
Programs known as obfuscators transform readable code into obfuscated code using various techniques.

Click here to see a screenshot of the proof

JavaScript Obfuscation is not a threat.

What does it threaten?

This is common practice. It prevents people trivially playing games with the scripts or stealing their functions.

It's also not even close to completely secure; an 'IT Tech' like yourself shouldn't have too much trouble reversing Java bytecode with a little patience.

By the way; you do know that the code in the page is an off the shelf BBS solution, vBulletin, not TalkTalk's own, right?

Here's all the Java called externally by that page.

<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_global.js?v=368"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_menu.js?v=368"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_md5.js?v=368"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_read_marker.js?v=368"></script>
<script src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">

There is no obfuscated Java built into the webpage directly.

If there's anything exotic hidden there it's likely that someone has posted it onto the forum themselves - not TalkTalk. It's a forum, people can post links. They post links to compromised sites these ping AVG's radar.

Nothing to see here, move along please.

Edited by deleted (Wed 12-Jun-13 10:35:11)

Hi TPCR,

In terms of the analytics you have provided, this is relevant to all content on the TalKTalk Members Site. As this includes the TalkTalk Members Forum, it also includes any links posted by members of the forum, not just the coding of the page or content posted by TalkTalk.As such the analytics you have provided will include user posted material.

As you are aware, as a regular member of the forum, the Online Community Executives are focussed on providing Support to our customers and investigating any serivce or account issues raised on the Forum.

We do also conduct light administration on the forum. However, due to the expansive nature of the amount of content on the forum, this moderation/administration is benefited from user flagged posts. Where such links are found and we will conduct moderation/administration as necessary and do take such matters seriously.

My understanding is you are aware of the nature of this moderation of the forum and that we will remove links that are deemed inappropriate or unsuitable in line with the forum Terms of Use, however an element of this is dependant on this being raised to our attention via the Report function, as is the case for many supported forums.

If you do have any further questions with regards the operation of the TalkTalk Members Forum it may be more appropriate to place this in the Suggestions and Feedback section of the TalkTalk Members Forum where this can be addressed by an Online Community Executive.

Regards

Mark
Online Community Department
TalkTalk

Hi Mark as you may already know by now that I have not recieved any official response on the TT forum from either the OCEs or from the TTRCEOExec via email

However it seems that an OCE can reply on the thinkbroadband forums and not their own (does that make any sence to anyone that reads this ?????)

As suggested by a certain OCE I did post my findings in the Suggestions and Feedback section of the TalkTalk Members Forum where this can be addressed by an Online Community Executive. see Possible breach of security upon completing the new security questions where no OCE has ever responded since the 1st post which started Friday 10th May 2013, 04:56 PM after a OCE told me to post in there as she did not want to forward my findings.

In response to the original post a TTRCEOExec did apologise that it was not escalated

The OCE had alledgedly gave me wrong information according to the TTRCEOExec

Then to top it all off I have been trying to pay my bill as you can see When will TalkTalk STOP I mean are TT so desperate for funds

I had to resort to the telephone support to try and get it sorted but as good as they tried by resseting my account etc still the same.

and still no official word on the TT forum to say they are working on a fix or to admit or deny my findings in reference to the obfuscation java issue.

Note:

Also refer to the recently deleted posts in your area 51 last seen at 11 am today

Then the truth will come out at last

I do not like the way I have recently been treated and want to leave TT at the earliest oppertunity.

When you read the above linked posts you will see evidence that A certain OCE can not tell the truth after I asked

Monday 10th Jun 2013, 12:19 PM Can you please forward and re-raise this known issue with them with the screenshots, and ask them if they were to log into any of their accounts would they not find it an annoying nuscience that needs to be removed.

The OCE replied

Monday 10th Jun 2013, 02:23 PM I am not able to re-raise an issue that has already been addressed by the My Account team.

and 32 mins yes 32 mins later same OCE

Monday 10th Jun 2013, 02:55 PM As with all issues that are raised on the forums we have provided feedback to the My Account team regarding your concerns over this issue. This was done earlier today.

Also another statment from the same OCE

Monday 10th Jun 2013, 10:24 AMThis issue has been raised with the My Account team previously. As this is not targeted marketing specific to your account it will not be removed. If you are unhappy with this I would suggest you follow the complaints process as we are unable to assist via the forums.

When the 1 in the face interrupt ad as can be seen in the screenshot names me, so therefore it is specific target marketing.

Is this reasonable behaviour from a profesional person on an open forum ?????
As you know against all odds I gave TT the benefit of the doubt but now their hooks are in I get treated this way (it is disgusting)

Your competition can save me over £200 per year and they wont treat me bad as they have a far better reputation than TT

Edited by deleted (Sun 16-Jun-13 21:23:06)

Hi Mark

In reply to a post by TALKTALK_SUPPORT:

Hi TPCR,

If you do have any further questions with regards the operation of the TalkTalk Members Forum it may be more appropriate to place this in the Suggestions and Feedback section of the TalkTalk Members Forum where this can be addressed by an Online Community Executive.

Regards

Mark
Online Community Department
TalkTalk

Can you please note

That I have already been there done that wore the tee-shirt etc and you will see in my last post in the thread Your Ideas & Suggestions for the Website & Forum you will see my post dated Tuesday 11th Jun 2013, 11:44 PMin the Possible breach of security upon completing the new security questions thread named and your post on here (ThinkBroadband) was dated Thu 13-Jun-13 12:43:42 and still no reply to any of my posts on the TalkTalk Forums

So you knew about this on Thu 13-Jun-13 12:43:42 and not bothered to check to see if I had indeed posted the feedback within your own forum and or be bothered to reply to my findings etc

However it amazes me how you can find the time to scope out forums other than your own forums to reply to.

And whilst I am at it I wold also like to note that since holding the hands a filling the shareholders pockets since the youview came out the support for the YVTV increased rapidly leaving a decline in the rest of the support threads (and I am not the only 1 to notice it)

Yes I know you all have to follow orders like good soldiers but TT needs to get their priorities straightened out.

and also I was told by an OCE not long after TT introduced the security questions that as I cleared the DPA before hand I would not have to fill the questions in however recentkt a certain OCE made me fill them in before she would give the support.

I am fed up of the lies and contradictions from 1 or more OCE's, my bills being overcharged every month that I had to go on your forums to get it sorted each time the list is getting longer not shorter

i'm no fanboi of TalkTalk, but I see nothing in your threads and links that would cause me undue worry.

The threat is a possible threat only, just like hammers are possible murder weapons.

The webmaster thing has been dealt with as far as I can see (I doubt very much that there is a job title at TalkTalk called Webmaster )

A web form allows interaction with the database without giving database access to the form user. The form gives a code which when used by the OCE in their special form presents detailed database information on that form or report.

The TV Ads are not personalised or directed specifically at you, they are directed at everyone who logs in.
You can argue that it only targets those who log in, but that's not the same as being personalised, or you could argue it was personalised as it was directed at only people with working eyeballs. Jus because an ad isn't directed at everyone in the world doesn't make it personalised.

Yes, it's annoying, but it is not a legal problem. It's an aesthetics or customer service problem. As you attempted to attack the ad via legal means, that is the response you got. If you had attacked it from an aesthetics/CS viewpoint you might have gained more traction.

That you can't get to the right page to pay your bill is your only relevant grievance. I also distrust DD and you have every right to be able to pay on the day of your choosing, after checking all the details are correct. DD screws up so often the only fair assumption is that they purposely "make errors" hoping you wont notice.

Not sure you will take my advice, as I know how it feels to head down an stubborn path, but if you can, drop the other issues and focus on the bill payment issue. You need some kind of solution before it goes as a default on your credit history

Low and behold and I can now stop holding my breath agin lol

I have had a reply by an OCE on their forum after I posted on here to my thread
Possible breach of security upon completing the new security questions

Who is blaming me for bumping up the thread and he clearly does not want anything to do with it

With repsect to your Thread in the Customer Service and billing section, this will be picked up in due course by the OCE handling that section. I can see this has received a response from OCE Emma but the last few posts are from yourself.

and

As such this is bumping your post causing a longer response time from the OCE as your are effectively moving your thread to the abck of the queue. As such I would advise if you wish to add more info to the thread while awaiting an OCE reply, that you use the "Edit" feature on your last post. This will allow you to add more information but wihtout affecting your position in the queue.

it is cllear that since th mentioned OCE_Emma's last post on Tuesday 11th Jun 2013, 03:14 PMthat TT does not want to bother sorting this out

Hi TPCR,

The CEOs office have spoken with me regarding your complaint this morning as they were not certain what the complaint related to and sought some clarification from us - for this reason I am fully aware that your complaint is with the CEOs office. I can not advise when they will contact you as they will need to fully investigate all aspects of your complaint.

so where is the feedback from the TTROCEExec then ????????

How can anyone be especialy a professional support personell get away with Not reading and absorbing the facts that are clearly in black and white


I clearly said

In reply to a post by TPCR:

Monday 17th Jun 2013, 06:36 PM

Hi Mark

The billing issue is seperate form the original complaint

I do have the contact details and contacted her directly last monday and she queried my complaint with OCE_Emma the following day on Tuesday.

But yet to contact me over the matter.

In reply to a post by Mark:

Tuesday 18 Jun 2013, 10:11 AM
HI TPCR,

If you have direct contact details then by all means you can use these to contact your CEO POC for any queries relating to your complaint.

With respect to the billing issue this can also be addressed.

Regards

and now on about the billing issues can be addressed by a OCE

What a mess TalkTalk are in as they can not read the facts and or be consistant in their statements

In reply to a post by Mark:

Tuesday 18 Jun 2013, 04:05 PM
hi TPCR,

The notes on the account fro the CEOEXec team indicate that they had been in contact with you and advised that this has been fed back to the Online Community Department for consideration. Following this the comaplint was closed as you ahd indicated you were happy with the actions that had been taken.

With regards to the billing query, I can see that you ahve been in contact with the Retentions Team who recommended you de-register and re-regsiter for My Account. Can you confirm fi you were able to do this sucessfully and if issues persist on the payment screen?

Tuesday 11th Jun 2013, 03:14 PM
Hi TPCR,

The CEOs office have spoken with me regarding your complaint this morning as they were not certain what the complaint related to and sought some clarification from us - for this reason I am fully aware that your complaint is with the CEOs office. I can not advise when they will contact you as they will need to fully investigate all aspects of your complaint.

In reply to a post by TPCR:

Tuesday, 18 Jun 20313 12:19 PM


So they are fully aware of the original issues which as a result have clearly broke my account. with the ads etc.

Note

I find it disgusting that a TTRCOEEXec can contact your OCE but not reply to my email

I have never been treated this bad by anyone and for a Multimillio ££££ company it is way put of order and I now want to leave TT at the earliest oppertunity

As it stands apart from phoning retentions myself on Friday, I have had no other support to get my bill payed and the CEOEXec team has yet to reply to my email or to contact me in any way shape or form regarding this issue

Absolutly disgusting is an understatement with 1 day left till the TalkTalks deadline to pay the bill by the 20th of the month and no support or resolution in sight

Please refer to the above links for conformation vis the TalkTalk forums

Still no official word from either a CEO or OCE and with approx 5 hours and 10 minutes untill their automatic service will kick in to downgrade my service i find this absolutley disgusting.

I am guessing that TalkTalk do not want me to pay my bill so I get a black mark against it

Please confirm or deny if TalkTalk wants me to pay my bill and be 100% honest.

Because of the obvious lies that 1 OCE states it is with a TTRCEOExec and another OCE claims it is not with the TTRCEOExec

I should have this bill for free or at the very least a very reasonable discount including the forseeable future

but you already know how that would pan out so you might aswell say goodbye to a loyal customer that stayed with TT against all odds

Also note that I am on the Dlink-DSL-2780 trial but I may have to decline because of your system stinks or rather the coders that broke MyAccount stinks to be quick enough to break it but not quick enough to fix it.

I wonder if it will take as much time as a thread called Deleting stale web site that started Tuesday 08th Nov 2011, 07:47 PM and still awaiting resolution as of Wednesday 18 Jun 2013 to get resolved

I know they will say you can not discuss other members threads etc

However please note that I am only relating to only the time it is taking to get resolved

Sounds to me like someone is trying to build a case so that they can leave TalkTalk without any exit penalties.

Agreed. They're not having any of it

The deadline is here and only a matter of time before my services are downgraded

StilI not able to pay my bill and still no update on the situation and I still do not know if TT are working on a fix

Could it be a underhanded tactic to try to force me to pay by DD if not it sure feels like it

Absolutly disgusting to say the least

So fed up with OCE's, CEO's and TTRCEOExec contradicting each other my billls fluctuating I just need them to clarify me leving without penalty


Ok VM are more expensive but it would be worth the extra as they never lied, added extra on the bills and never had any issues with them
I need to change to more honest ISP

Or their is PlusNet that can save me over £208 per year and have a much better reputation that TalkTalk, and every 1 I know on PlusNet has never had any issues

If someone used the Talktalk help pages half as much as they did typing on forums they would find the alternative ways to pay and that would not be an issue http://help2.talktalk.co.uk/my-account-bills/ways-pa...

In reply to a post by usesearch1:

If someone used the Talktalk help pages half as much as they did typing on forums they would find the alternative ways to pay and that would not be an issue http://help2.talktalk.co.uk/my-account-bills/ways-pa...

The issue is the MyAccount is broke and needs to be repaired and TalkTalk knows about it and have not fixed it and paying it by an alternative method would be defeating the object as I would most likely run in to the same issue next month.

Please forgive me for trying to get it fixed so the issue does not happen for the next bill

Yes of course there are alternative ways to pay however that would defeat the object to get it fixed in time for the next in-line bill.

And for TalkTalk to realise and recognise there is a problem their end and fix it

Which of course I would keep running into the same issue untill it is fixed

For example if I paid via the phone

we would not know it the problem that is preventing me to pay online will be fixed in time for the next bill which will be generated around the 9th July especialy since the CEO and TTRCEOExec will not address it and get it fixed

Example 2 paid by phone

would not be able to test if the problem is fixed due to the fact that I have to type the amount into a mandarory field before it goes to the next page for inputing the credit card details (At the moment it does not get to the credit card page)

Do you see the bigger picture now

No offence but it would pay some people to read the entirity of the issue and not speed read as I have also been on the telephone with TalkTalk last week

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 05:02:07)

In reply to a post by TPCR:

No offence but it would pay some people to read the entirity of the issue ...............

What, you expect people to carefully read all those over long rantings, and follow your arguments, like they actually cared !!

You seem to have moved goalposts several times, obfuscation code, to unwanted adverts, to your inability to pay your bill via your TalkTalk account. And why would having the same problem next month (paying by credit card) be a problem if you have left TalkTalk as you claim is your objective. Mixed messages.

If leaving TT would save you over £200 as you claim, why don't you just leave, that £200 would surely cover any exit penalties.

But you seem to have dug yourself a nice little hole, which you seem to be hell bent on deepening, some people may ask why.

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 10:29:18)

Why dont I just leave Hmmm now then lets see

Answer

I am in a contract

I seem to move goal posts Eh!!!

Answer

I have brought up the issues as they arose

How have I dug a nice little hole ?????

I did not break TalkTalk they broke it themselves

I brought my findings to them about the obfuscation issue

I brought to their attention the recent unwanted ads as they broke my account and cannot pay my bill online (BY CREDIT CARD)

as I am in contract I would need clarification I can leave without those nasty charges which are more that what I would save so please look at the facts and do your homework

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 11:13:28)

In reply to a post by TPCR:

....................................... please look at the facts and do your homework

Homework -----

So just how many people on the TalkTalk forums are reporting that they also have these issues ??

Just how widespread is this problem ?

I meant in relation to my issues since you were discussing the info in my thread

I dont know

I dont have access to that information

In reply to a post by TPCR:

In reply to a post by usesearch1:

If someone used the Talktalk help pages half as much as they did typing on forums they would find the alternative ways to pay and that would not be an issue http://help2.talktalk.co.uk/my-account-bills/ways-pa...

No offence but it would pay some people to read the entirity of the issue and not speed read as I have also been on the telephone with TalkTalk last week

Oh I have read your thread here and the one linked to on your ISP forum and noticed and I quote

Just get the account sorted so I can pay it or PM me the account number and sort code so I can pay it like I did last year when I first joined.

so I thought as you couldn't or wouldn't search for the info I would provide it, but oh well as you say

How can we help those that are unwilling to help themselves

Hope you get some comfort from your ranting on forums

In reply to a post by TPCR:

I dont know

I dont have access to that information

If you've raised these issues with TalkTalk on their forums as you have indicated, you must be able to see if anyone is supporting your issues, or posting the same or very similar problems.

So I'm going to guess the answer to the question - how many people are having this problem is 1.


With 4 million plus customers (according to Ofcom), if only 1 is reporting a problem you have to seriously consider where the problem is. If it were a general problem I suspect than more than 1 person would be reporting it.

Given that TalkTalk (and every other ISP) has zero control how you set up, customise or parameterise your pc the probability is that the problem could well be more local than global.

I'd suggest having a look in your local paper and finding someone who does home visits for pc repair and setup and see if he (or she) can find any peculiarities with your set up. That's if you want to find a solution, but there again I'm guessing the only solution you will find acceptable is the penalty free cancellation of your TalkTalk contract.

But your problem, your brick wall, your head.

Homework done, handed in.

Sorry to inform you that your Homework is incomplete

I have clearly stated an a few occasions and if you completed your Homework you would of seen that I have indeed raised the issues with TalkTalk both by their forum and by Telephone

Also rechecked with different operating systems, different browsers and a different ISP with and without adblock which has never affected it before

Checcked the java settings

And as of last night a different talktalk router set to TalkTalks defaults

Plus I can pay all my other bills online, make online purchases etc

also to note:

It has only happened since the new recent interrupt adverts have started

And yet you are quick to blame it on my setup, tut tut tut

and how can it be my set up when

I still can not pay my bill due to

And yet again

The page or file cannot be found
Oops, sorry, this page doesn't exist.
We couldn't find it, meaning this page or file may have been moved or deleted recently. It's also possible
you've used an outdated link or typed the address (URL) incorrectly.

The URL to that page is

https://myaccount.talktalk.co.uk/Error/pagenotfound

It comes up after I type the value in the mandatory box on the left then click Continue on this page
(thus eliminating any outdated links from my side)

Prior to that I was getting

From the initial MyAccount page

click make a payment then takes me to the mybill/Onlinecardpayment/chaseoneoffpayment page

Type in the full amount in the box as it is mandatory click continue and takes me to the

We are currently experiencing technical issues with My Account.
We are working hard to fix the problem and the service will be available again soon.

Url to that page https://myaccount.talktalk.co.uk/Error/errorhandler

Oh and by the way I am qualified over ten + years in PC repairs

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 17:38:14)

You didn't seem to deny that you are the only person with this problem. So approx. 4 million TalkTalk customers and no one else appears to be even reporting the problem, do you not find that more than a little strange ?

10 years plus in pc repairs ??? Well when one person in 4 million reports a problem, what do you suspect, the 1 person or the 3,999,999 others.

Probability still points towards a "local" incompatibility (a little bit of "expert knowledge" tweaking somewhere). But you're obviously the expert ............... so I would suggest .....................

Bible, Luke 4:23 -- Physician, heal theyself.

I'm sure you will find a reason to break your contract if you keep trying.

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 17:56:53)

I can neither agree or disagree whether or not I am the only 1 with this issue as I have no access to TalkTalk custoners data, phone calls etc

(Although it seems obvious that you clearly have the clerance to access TalkTalks customer data)

So how do you expain the standard Technicial issue, we are working on it page turns into the error/handler page

I also done a lot of troubleshooting with TalkTalk via the phone, including them resetting my account whilst on the phone and even the TalkTalk guy said it is a techinical issue and was passing it to their own IT Team to find a fix.

But still no word if it is being worked on and if so no update as yet

5 different computers all setup differently
5 different operating systems including linux
2 different ISPS
2 different routers 1 of which on talktalks default settings
6 different browsers and with No-Addons and cleared cache
checked and altered java settings and rolled back to a known working earlier version
turned off and disabled adblock
Had account reset
Obviously different IP Addresses after swapping routers and reboots etc
Different DNS servers
Changed filters
Tried both wired and wireless

And much more and still the issue persists

with the page not found

If you can not accept the facts then please stop posting on my thread as I have not got the time to keep arguiing with you

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 18:38:54)

In reply to a post by TPCR:

(Although it seems obvious that you clearly have the clerance to access TalkTalks customer data)

The TT forums are open. Anyone (including yourself) can see the posts that are being added. You must regularly check those forums to see if you have had a response to your "problems". So as you won't confirm one way or the other I am left to surmise that only 1 person is reporting this problem.

Your problem is 100% with TalkTalk, so why post on these forums if you are not seeking a reaction ?

You posted to get other people's support and sympathy - sorry, if the responses you are getting are not the ones you hoped for.

Please listen carefully I am far to busy with my own issues with TT to scope them out to see if anyonelse has the same issues, also I for obvious reasons do not have access to the data that TT get via the dog and bone aka TelePhone.

Therefore I am unable to agree or deny it

You come accross as a TT employee, trying to hide the fact as You obviously have access to all TT's data by what you are saying or rather not saying

I posted on here to advise people what they could be letting themselves into if they sign up to TT

Plus as there are TalkTalk OCE's on here that replied to my thread on here whilst they ignored ny thread on their own forum

And definatly not to have a TT fanboi > girl > Employee as I dont know what you are as I cant see you, to claim that TT are not at fault and never have any issues whatsoever, so please refrain from posting and stalking my thread. and go bug someonelse like yourself

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jun-13 20:37:12)

In reply to a post by TPCR:

You come accross as a TT employee, trying to hide the fact as You obviously have access to all TT's data by what you are saying or rather not saying

Descending into defensive fantasy.

Come on, you must read the TT forums, they are open to everyone, how many people to the best of your knowledge are reporting the same problem. Couldn't be that the answer is no one, could it ?

I'm not saying that TT don't have problems - I'm just pointing out that in this particular instance, if you have 4,000,000 customers and only one, someone who customises pc's in potentially non-standard ways, has a problem, there is a probability that can't be ignored.

Very community spirited of you to warn people of problems, but doesn't the fact that no one else seems to agree with you not ring any bells ?

If you don't have time to keep responding then don't.

It's your problem (and apparently no one else's).

Escuse me you dont know me or how I set up PC's and I did ask yo to refrain from posting and stalking my thread.

You clearly can not listen so therefore I do no want need or require any communication from you yes that is you HTTP404

And for your information the linux distro that was used for testing was oobe I will thank you to refrain from assuming you know how I do or do not set up PC's

Therefore I will not troll TT forums just for you so please go away and leave my thread alone.

I will alow you one last post then please leave me alone, to answer how you know without doubt that no-one else has the same issue as myself as you can not go by TalkTalk forum alone or the fact that no-one has posted on here

In reply to a post by HTTP404:

It's your problem (and apparently no one else's).

Now you are contradicting yourself.

And as it is my problem and not yours then kindly leave me and my thread alone

In reply to a post by TPCR:

I will allow you one last post ...............

Very gracious of you - but unfortunately not your choice.

But I'm still curious.

You are a TalkTalk customer - right ?

You are a member of the TalkTalk forums - right ?

You read the TalkTalk forums - right ?

So why won't you say how many other people are reporting the same issue on the TalkTalk forums - because it devalues your claims ?

I wouldn't have to keep posting if you would just stop avoiding that one simple question, which you must know the answer to................. ?

But if you stop posting I would have nothing to respond to - your not exactly adding anything to your cause by simply dismissing my obvious question.

But good luck trying to get TalkTalk to cancel your contract penalty free, I'm sure they will, eventually.

You already know the answers to the first three

And that was you last post

So will say this

I do not look at every single thread on any forum so wont change just for you

Curiousness can get some in trouble and then maybe not just depends on the situation at any one time.

In reply to a post by HTTP404:

I wouldn't have to keep posting if you would just stop avoiding that one simple question, which you must know the answer to................. ?

I had already responded to that question a few times so please go and bug yourself and leave me and my thread alone like i have askied you nicely several times

If you are that desperate to satisfy your curiosity you would go and troll ever single thread from the very start of the TalkTalk forum yourself.

I have not asked you any questions this time for you to answeror respond to so now GO AWAY AND STOP STALKING ME AND MY THREAD

I see you think your above the rules and think you can do what you like and not respect other members wishes tut tut tut

Pure Obfuscation.

You Clearly have no respect for other members now go away and leave me and my thred alone for at least the 5th time I have had to ask you

Your thre(a)d is bare!

lol

I was pointed to this "bad tempered" thread...and yes it is a bit.

I think the point I would make is that it is an open BBS, and whilst a member may start a thread they do not "own" it. What any member can do is, not read, ignore and not respond, or respond to any post in any thread. Posts to comply with our rules.

To tell someone to not post in a thread is a red rag to a bull often making things worse.

So,............ don't read or respond is the option that you control.

I have to say that you do not do yourself any favours.

This is not your thread, simply a thread you started.

You might know (as an it person) that using bold is a)shouting and b) actually makes your posts difficult to read for those of us that use daily email digest.

Why do you not just pay by DD?

Regarding the credentials, there is no reason to suggest that there is any compromise.

Regarding the 404, it does appear that is a problem at your end as otherwise it would pretty likely have been raised by other members of the TT forum .

I myself regularly have problems paying by credit cards on the interneT but usually when the extra checking required by MasterCard kicks in., as I pay by DD I cannot try to recreate your problem, but I imagine that you may have complicated your problem resolution by raising so many different issues.

As you will know, when sorting out technical issues, you have to look at the symptoms, and then separate the different issues and look for potential root causes.

What exactly do you really want?

Do you want answers about obfuscation, answers about the TT security when you are asked to log your credentials, do you want to have them stop putting their own ads that are often beneficial to users, on your page, or do you want to pay your bill?

Which is the most important to you? I would think about that and then focus your efforts on that one first.

I would think that would be the payment, and again I am not sure why you don't just use DD it is so easy and so safe.

As you know that your problem is unlikely to be fixed in time, it makes no sense for you to withhold payment and be in breach of contract as TT could then use the courts to pursue you. They would probably win too as they provide many alter ative ways of payment.

If your aim is to try to get TT to let you leave penalty-free, I guess you will carry on as you are, but I have no idea whether that will work, or end up in court.

I have been with TT ever since they LLUd my exchange a few years ago. Whilst their call centre is appalling, everything else is excellent and so much better than BT who Are the worst company I have ever had to deal with.TT provide me a better service than BT with much more stuff included , at a lower cost.

I am not. TT employee just a customer who gets great value!

I have spent some time reading this thread and it is very confusing as seems to start off with someone worried about javascript obsfucation, then mention a TV ad, then turn into a billing issue and even though I've read the thread it makes little sense.

If the original poster wishes to seek the help/guidance of others or use the forum as an alternate contact method for TalkTalk they can continue to do so, but they should not these forums are not exclusive and any poster is welcome to post to a thread so long as staying within the site rules.