Openreach FTTP

Anyone know when TalkTalk will be reselling Openreach FTTP.? I can get BT 900/110 but am holding out for TalkTalk for the moment but beginning to wonder whether I'm being silly waiting with still no announcements from TalkTalk .

Thanks

Barney

If you live in Salisbury phone them or try their own support forums

TalkTalk-TheRegisterINFO
A google found this link may be of use to you.
also an interesting read.

Thanks for the link. Had seen it previously but no update since then from TalkTalk. Oh well.

Don't live in Salisbury, or York sadly. Tried the TalkTalk forums, but nobody knows anything there either. Thanks anyway.

Should be this month.

Second time of trying to post this has my internet keeps dropping.
It should be sometime this month, but is supposed to be a soft launch, so I guess little if any advertising.
With the wet weather over the last few days I'm sometimes down to 2Mbps, or losing connection, so I'm looking forward to FTTP.

When they phoned me last month to try to get me to convert my legacy F2S ADSL they still had no idea when FTTP would be available.

After the latest notification of yet another price increases I have decided to move to Zen - for what my current ADSL2 service will cost after the increase I can get FTTP 100Mb with no future price rises, unlike talktalk who increase prices annually once initial contract period is over despite offering much faster services for less on a new contract.

Or you can make a note in your diary when your TT minimum term ends and nearer the date either re-negotiate a new contract or leave them. Ditto for your gas & electric. Its not rocket science.

In reply to a post by Highland76:

Or you can make a note in your diary when your TT minimum term ends and nearer the date either re-negotiate a new contract or leave them. Ditto for your gas & electric. Its not rocket science.

Well said, i have been doing this for years even though i had no intention of leaving.

I pay £27.50 i get 70Mbps (see test in link below)

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...

Unless i have missed something Zen is £7.49 per month dearer.

£34.99
monthly
£19.99 set-up fee

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Edited by Chippy_Tea_ (Wed 26-Aug-20 16:06:44)

Yes Zen are more expensive than the possible offering from TalkTalk, but talktalk can currently only offer FTTC not FTTP and it is the few hundred metres of copper from the cabinet to my house (via telegraph pole) that is the weak link in my connection. Also I believe TalkTalk are still incapable of providing IPv6, which although not currently essential could be useful.

It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.

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It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.

I don't find making one phone call every 18 months to save money or get something extra too much trouble and as you say TT being incapable of providing IPv6 isn't essential, it looks like you have made your mind up i wish you well with your new provider.

In reply to a post by bloodycat:

Yes Zen are more expensive than the possible offering from TalkTalk, but talktalk can currently only offer FTTC not FTTP and it is the few hundred metres of copper from the cabinet to my house (via telegraph pole) that is the weak link in my connection. Also I believe TalkTalk are still incapable of providing IPv6, which although not currently essential could be useful.

It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.

TalkTalk do offer Openreach FTTP now, its been a few weeks since they started selling it. However they have a separate full fibre sales team and its phone orders only at present. They will almost certainly offer it to you if your head-end exchange is TalkTalk FTTC/P enabled (most are):

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibr...

Wrt IPv6, 99% of average users have no need for it. I'd guess your average user won't even know what IPv6 is, never mind have the requirement for it.

As for re-negotiating a new contract every 18-24 months, to many that will be no more than a minor inconvenience as long as they're getting a good deal. You pays your money and you takes your choice...

In reply to a post by Highland76:

In reply to a post by bloodycat:

Yes Zen are more expensive than the possible offering from TalkTalk, but talktalk can currently only offer FTTC not FTTP and it is the few hundred metres of copper from the cabinet to my house (via telegraph pole) that is the weak link in my connection. Also I believe TalkTalk are still incapable of providing IPv6, which although not currently essential could be useful.

It's not just about cost, reliability, technical competence and customer service all count. I don't want to have to keep renegotiating and getting tied into a new contract every 12/18 months to stop being ripped off.

TalkTalk do offer Openreach FTTP now, its been a few weeks since they started selling it. However they have a separate full fibre sales team and its phone orders only at present. They will almost certainly offer it to you if your head-end exchange is TalkTalk FTTC/P enabled (most are):

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibr...

Wrt IPv6, 99% of average users have no need for it. I'd guess your average user won't even know what IPv6 is, never mind have the requirement for it.

As for re-negotiating a new contract every 18-24 months, to many that will be no more than a minor inconvenience as long as they're getting a good deal. You pays your money and you takes your choice...

Even though I get FTTC from TT they are not able to offer FTTP from my exchange, from my conversations with OCE's, helpline, and CEO's office it appears this is very common and why they are not going full on with offering this, meanwhile AFAIK all other ISP's offering FTTP are happy to take a order from me.

In your case they may not have sufficient backhaul capacity at the exchange to support FTTP services.

Edited by Highland76 (Thu 27-Aug-20 15:07:23)

It would seem so, but further developments, this thread prompted me to phone TT again.
TT are still uncertain how porting the landline number to a VIOP provider will work, this seems such a fundamental part of the change, but the operator I spoke to couldn't answer that question, all he knew was they wouldn't have anymore dealings with the landline number.
My question was twofold, firstly could I port the number straight away without a stop being put on the entire service (as would normally be the case), or failing that if waiting until the FTTP service went live and TT dropped the landline number would it still be available to port over, or would it disappear into the ether (which wouldn't surprise me with TT).

Now here's something which very odd, twice before I've been offered FTTP from TT, and both times the offer has been withdrawn citing problems with exchange equipment (or capacity?).
This time I once again phoned the 'future fibre' number, and yes I could have FTTP, but it became obvious the operator hadn't realised I was an existing customer. This is what happened once before, phoned and was mistaken as a new customer and offered FTTP, then the offer was withdrawn.
I'm now told someone will ring me back sometime in the next two to three weeks to try and sort this out!

In reply to a post by Highland76:

As for re-negotiating a new contract every 18-24 months, to many that will be no more than a minor inconvenience as long as they're getting a good deal. You pays your money and you takes your choice...

Just wondering how much does TT increase its prices at the end of contract, Ive been looking at their fttp 150Mb service @ £32 which comes with Price Promise Plus but cant find full details of what that actually means. Looks like no price increases during contract but doesnt specify any increases at the end of contract. I favour Zen with no price increases ever but if TT only have a small annual increase and they are easy to haggle down it might be a good option.

In reply to a post by ModemMan:

In reply to a post by Highland76:

As for re-negotiating a new contract every 18-24 months, to many that will be no more than a minor inconvenience as long as they're getting a good deal. You pays your money and you takes your choice...

Just wondering how much does TT increase its prices at the end of contract, Ive been looking at their fttp 150Mb service @ £32 which comes with Price Promise Plus but cant find full details of what that actually means. Looks like no price increases during contract but doesnt specify any increases at the end of contract. I favour Zen with no price increases ever but if TT only have a small annual increase and they are easy to haggle down it might be a good option.

End of contract it will raise by around £8, but AFAIK you should be able to resign with whatever is on offer at time, or at least that's what I have done for many years.
Note TT FTTP is data only.

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End of contract it will raise by around £8, but AFAIK you should be able to resign with whatever is on offer at time, or at least that's what I have done for many years.
Note TT FTTP is data only.

Thanks burble, similar to BT with up-to £8 if you don't re-contract but BT also impose 3.9% + CPI each year so that can soon mount up at least TT price promise removes that aspect. Data only is not a problem my current provider is via WiMax (also data only) and been on VOIP for a good few years.