Move from FTTC to FTTP.

I have been with TT approximately 15 years and in that time i have had few issues I moved onto FTTC a few years ago and i have always had great speeds and a rock steady connection, after a very long wait FTTP is finally here and with 3 heavy users in the house we have decided its time to switch.

I set my switch from FTTC to FTTP up using online chat as i have read it can take a while on the phone it did take a while to go through all the safety questions etc but it didn't bother me as i carried on using the PC as the order progressed, i now have a date for the engineer visit and fingers crossed it'll all go without issue, my next door neighbour recently had FTTP installed and as the pole is quite close to our houses he said it didn't take long.

I have the 150 package which is £29.95 fixed for 24 month - 150 Mbps.

TT emailed me shortly after the order to say they would send me a new modem i have now received an email saying it may not be delivered before the time slot i have been given for FTTP install is this normal?

Will the engineers set everything up, test it then its simply a case of me setting the new modem up when it arrives?

Thanks in advance.

Talk Talk use more than one network, so is the service over Openreach FTTP or an alternative network ?

If it’s Openreach FTTP, then once the ONT is authenticated, ( which only indicates the OR service is OK ) no test of the onward connection into TT can be done , and unfortunately if it’s the case that the cessation of your FTTC is linked to the TT FTTP provision, then it’s possible the FTTC service will cease before you get your new TT router ( presumably your existing TT router is not FTTP compatible ) .
Once Openreach indicate the FTTP installation is complete ( as far as OR would be concerned the ‘job’ is complete ) that may automatically trigger the FTTC service to be ceased .

Another possible (minor) irritant could be if you are served overhead from a telegraph pole , the copper pair dropwire will probably be left in situ alongside the new optical dropwire , whereas if the new TT router were available the copper dropwire could have been taken down as part of the FTTP installation …obviously if the copper is taken down before the new TT equipment turns up , then you won’t have any FTTC service or FTTP service

Edited by Iniltous (Wed 04-Dec-24 15:59:46)

TalkTalk tend to send out routers wilynilly, I have 4 of the Fast 5364, 2 TalkTalk residential, 2 TalkTalk business, these are compatible with both their FTTC and FTTP services. So if you are staying on a OR provided line and have a Fast 5364 it should be just a case of plugging in lead from ONT to WAN port.

Edited by burble (Wed 04-Dec-24 16:31:13)

In reply to a post by burble:

TalkTalk tend to send out routers wilynilly, I have 4 of the Fast 5364, 2 TalkTalk residential, 2 TalkTalk business, these are compatible with both their FTTC and FTTP services. So if you are staying on a OR provided line and have a Fast 5364 it should be just a case of plugging in lead from ONT to WAN port.

Thanks to both of you for your help i have checked and my current router which looks like the one in this video has a red WAN port

Could i ask why TT send out a new router like this if the original works?

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Wed 04-Dec-24 17:20:29)

Because they advertise their services as being bundled with a Wi-Fi 6 router so need to provide you with what you signed up for. People like TalkTalk who can only resell the wholesale products available to them and have limited desire to appeal to the enthusiast end of the market (A&A, Aquiss) can only really differentiate their service with stuff like "Wi-Fi guarantees" or "look how good our router is", there's no technical reason why you can't keep using the one you have now.

In reply to a post by jpm:

Because they advertise their services as being bundled with a Wi-Fi 6 router so need to provide you with what you signed up for. People like TalkTalk who can only resell the wholesale products available to them and have limited desire to appeal to the enthusiast end of the market (A&A, Aquiss) can only really differentiate their service with stuff like "Wi-Fi guarantees" or "look how good our router is", there's no technical reason why you can't keep using the one you have now.

Thanks JPM, i do like the look of the eero app you can see and do quite a lot of things when using it.

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Wed 04-Dec-24 19:17:08)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by burble:

TalkTalk tend to send out routers wilynilly, I have 4 of the Fast 5364, 2 TalkTalk residential, 2 TalkTalk business, these are compatible with both their FTTC and FTTP services. So if you are staying on a OR provided line and have a Fast 5364 it should be just a case of plugging in lead from ONT to WAN port.

Thanks to both of you for your help i have checked and my current router which looks like the one in this video has a red WAN port

Could i ask why TT send out a new router like this if the original works?

That's the one I have 4 of, I did have 5 but gave one to a friend for use on his business line.

That's the one I have 4 of, I did have 5 but gave one to a friend for use on his business line.

Thanks great to know i can get online if the modem is late and i will keep it as a spare if the eero breaks.

The modem arrived before the installer.

The install went smoothly he was gone in just over an hour.

Happy with my new Wi-Fi speed -




Edit to add Wi-Fi

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Thu 05-Dec-24 13:23:00)

Unlike FTTC would normally expect to see the speeds slightly higher than package speed, say 152/32, but that's just nitpicking as you wouldn't notice the differance.

In reply to a post by burble:

Unlike FTTC would normally expect to see the speeds slightly higher than package speed, say 152/32, but that's just nit-picking as you wouldn't notice the difference.

TBH i never checked the advertised upload speed so did wonder why there was such a huge difference when i did my first speed test, having checked i can see its close enough

TalkTalk Fibre 150

Average download speed
152Mbps

Average upload speed
30Mbps

FTTP 37ms ping? Thought Openreach FTTP ping always get 8ms or less? I use to have G.fast 160/30 then 330/50 as both are less than 10ms ping!

Edited by adslmax (Thu 05-Dec-24 22:12:19)

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FTTP 37ms ping? Thought Openreach FTTP ping always get 8ms or less?

Then you thought wrongly.

The main factor is where you live. If you're in Scotland or NI then you can easily see 15ms+ ping to London.

Light in glass travels at approximately 2/3c, or about 200,000km/s. Since we're measuring round-trip times that works out at about 1ms for every 100km. But that's just the fibre propagation; it doesn't include intervening electrical devices, or that the fibre path is not in a straight line.

In this case, the poster said they are doing tests over wifi which could also add substantial latency.

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FTTP 37ms ping? Thought Openreach FTTP ping always get 8ms or less? I use to have G.fast 160/30 then 330/50 as both are less than 10ms ping!

This is a different speed test i regularly use - 10ms ping

See speed test result - https://ibb.co/pfczgjW

A heads up if you switch to the eero router have a Freesat set top box and see Commscope in the connected devices list in the eero app.

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4768301-co...

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 07-Dec-24 19:02:04)

Jack, thanks for reposting that it is useful as many won't know and maybe will have same question and its now searchable on google so

In reply to a post by Taras:

Jack, thanks for reposting that it is useful as many won't know and maybe will have same question and its now searchable on google so

Thanks Taras, i hope it saves some customers pulling their hair out trying to find the answer it took me way too much time, many searches then the help from great members here to get to the bottom of it.

In reply to a post by burble:

Unlike FTTC would normally expect to see the speeds slightly higher than package speed, say 152/32, but that's just nitpicking as you wouldn't notice the differance.

Hi, i forgot about this thread the speeds have been rock steady at 150 Mbps for a while now not sure why the two i posted earlier were lower.

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Tue 07-Jan-25 13:35:28)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

FTTP 37ms ping? Thought Openreach FTTP ping always get 8ms or less? I use to have G.fast 160/30 then 330/50 as both are less than 10ms ping!

A different speed test -
https://ibb.co/kDHgFsX

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Hi, i forgot about this thread the speeds have been rock steady at 150 Mbps for a while now not sure why the two i posted earlier were lower.

You said you were testing on wi-fi, so this can be affected by things like where you're sitting in relation to the router, external interface, and so on.

It can also be affected by how heavily the TBB test server is loaded with other tests, and how busy the Internet links are between you and there. You can discount such small differences.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Hi, i forgot about this thread the speeds have been rock steady at 150 Mbps for a while now not sure why the two i posted earlier were lower.

You said you were testing on wi-fi, so this can be affected by things like where you're sitting in relation to the router, external interface, and so on.

It can also be affected by how heavily the TBB test server is loaded with other tests, and how busy the Internet links are between you and there. You can discount such small differences.

I have done all tests from the same pc in the same location so as you say its probably the loading on the test.

My minimum guaranteed speed is 120 Mbps i am always well above that.

My Speed Test from Aquiss SoGEA 80/20

https://i.ibb.co/QmHR624/Fire-Shot-Capture-008-Sam-K...

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My Speed Test from Aquiss SoGEA 80/20

https://i.ibb.co/QmHR624/Fire-Shot-Capture-008-Sam-K...

Why have you posted a FTTC speed test in A FTTP thread