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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 11-Feb-09 18:22:24
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Phorm


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What is TalkTalk's current position on Phorm?

Last March they had a discussion about it in the TalkTalk forum but the latest concerns of the members are now being largely ignored by the reps.
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(deleted) Sun 15-Feb-09 22:10:03
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In view of the response or rather lack of it, I can only infer that the 'opt-in' has not been adopted.
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(deleted) Sun 15-Feb-09 22:52:08
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Hmmmm interesting but i feel its almost a forgone conclusion that DPI is coming to all of us at some point ..
cant answer your question as im not connected with TalkTalk , but it has indeed gone all quiet on the Phorm fronts .
Must be nearly time for another assault on our freedoms and privacy


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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 15-Feb-09 23:30:59
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I know Porm have said that the BT trials was a success and that BT would start using Phorm by the end of the year. BT seems less sure.

With any luck Porm will go belly up before it happens.

As for it coming to all of us, there will be some ISPs who will resist, but for how long for is another thing.

It should certainly be opt-in and I think the government should step in and tell them that it will be a opt in./

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 19-Feb-09 08:58:17
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DPI does not equal Phorm

TalkTalk to manage P2P traffic is probably already doing DPI (Deep Packet Inspection)

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Standard User Hanco
(newbie) Sat 21-Feb-09 12:53:02
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Has everyone signed the Prime Minister's website petition against the use of this technology for advertising purposes?

The petition closes in 10 days or so. SIgn to say you are "against any ISP breaching customer privacy using advertising technologies"

Very easy to do...
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ispphor...

Over 20,500 signatures and fourth largest petition on the website. Plenty of room for more though and we do need the maximum possible number to get the eyes and ears on this issue.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 21-Feb-09 23:13:19
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In reply to a post by Hanco:
Has everyone signed the Prime Minister's website petition against the use of this technology for advertising purposes?

The petition closes in 10 days or so. SIgn to say you are "against any ISP breaching customer privacy using advertising technologies"

Very easy to do...
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ispphor...

Over 20,500 signatures and fourth largest petition on the website. Plenty of room for more though and we do need the maximum possible number to get the eyes and ears on this issue.


What is the point? It will mmake not one bit of difference.

Adrian using Linux on his laptop and loves it.

BTBroadbandanywhere type package.
Standard User Hanco
(newbie) Sun 22-Feb-09 14:42:11
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
In reply to a post by Hanco:
Has everyone signed the Prime Minister's website petition against the use of this technology for advertising purposes?

The petition closes in 10 days or so. SIgn to say you are "against any ISP breaching customer privacy using advertising technologies"

Very easy to do...
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ispphor...

Over 20,500 signatures and fourth largest petition on the website. Plenty of room for more though and we do need the maximum possible number to get the eyes and ears on this issue.


What is the point? It will mmake not one bit of difference.


If you mean that campaigning against something and getting others to do the same does not change things then history (even very recent history) would say you are wrong. You only have to look at the change in Facebook and their Ts & Cs or the MP expenses proposals and the change that a concerted campaign initiated in those two areas. But even if it does not stop Phorm, enagaging people will alert them to the use of technology in this area so they do enact a choice when it is presented to them. Apathy is the option some people will take (more important things in life etc) but apathy is not for everyone, and signing up (if someone agrees with the petition) is not a big job.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 22-Feb-09 15:20:15
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
In reply to a post by Hanco:
Has everyone signed the Prime Minister's website petition against the use of this technology for advertising purposes?

The petition closes in 10 days or so. SIgn to say you are "against any ISP breaching customer privacy using advertising technologies"

Very easy to do...
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ispphor...

Over 20,500 signatures and fourth largest petition on the website. Plenty of room for more though and we do need the maximum possible number to get the eyes and ears on this issue.


What is the point? It will mmake not one bit of difference.


This is the problem m8 Apathy this is why we get sh*t on in this country with people having the same attitude as you, stand up for what you think is right instead of saying whats the point.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Feb-09 18:12:55
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If you mean that campaigning against something and getting others to do the same does not change things then history (even very recent history) would say you are wrong. You only have to look at the change in Facebook and their Ts & Cs or the MP expenses proposals and the change that a concerted campaign initiated in those two areas. But even if it does not stop Phorm, enagaging people will alert them to the use of technology in this area so they do enact a choice when it is presented to them. Apathy is the option some people will take (more important things in life etc) but apathy is not for everyone, and signing up (if someone agrees with the petition) is not a big job.
[/quote]


Granted sometimes it can work, but the number 10 petition site is just a gimmick or a public relations scam, it don't matter how many people sign on there, it does nothing.
So I will say once again, what is the point?


Adrian using Linux on his laptop and loves it.

BTBroadbandanywhere type package.
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