In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

If you are so sure they are up to something dodgey what steps have you taken to put a stop to it?

Seems to me that they are up to something dodgy- deliberate and knowing infringement of copyright.

They've been told to stop (both electronically and by direct communication), and have ignored it.

Edited by billford (Sat 31-Jul-10 16:48:36)

They've been told to stop (both electronically and by direct communication), and have ignored it.

Bill can you say categorically they are breaking the law ?

I think they would have to be extremely stupid to carry if they are, the TT forum thread is there for all to see even non members.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Bill can you say categorically they are breaking the law ?

I'm not a copyright lawyer, so not familiar with what is criminal and what is civil law, but deliberate infringement of copyright is certainly an offence of some sort.

Perhaps you should talk to someone in the music industry, they're pretty familiar with copyright legislation.

In reply to a post by billford:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Bill can you say categorically they are breaking the law ?

I'm not a copyright lawyer, so not familiar with what is criminal and what is civil law, but deliberate infringement of copyright is certainly an offence of some sort.

Perhaps you should talk to someone in the music industry, they're pretty familiar with copyright legislation.

Bill I cannot believe a company as big as TT who have already got a reputation that stinks for their lack of customer support would be stupid enough to carry on what they are doing having already had it plastered across their own forum that their customers have noticed they are being monitored, they are now being refereed to in the forum as StalkStalk, i honestly believe they will have looked into the legal side of things before they started and that is why they carry on.

If it turns out i am wrong I will gladly eat my humble pie.

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 31-Jul-10 17:54:35)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

i honestly believe they have will have looked into the legal side of things before they started and that is why they carry on.

So did BT with Phorm

If it turns out i am wrong I will gladly eat my humble pie.

Can't say fairer than that

Do we agree that the owner has the right to refuse access to any website.

This extract from a reply from CD email after Stalkstalk had been told to stop accessing my sites, I believe demonstrates their arrogant attitude to website owners "we refute your email and reserve our rights to check your site for the protection of our users. "

Stalkstalk have no rights to access anyone else�s site or mine

BTW

I cannot believe a company as big as TT

That is what they rely on people believing they are so big they could not/would not do such a thing.

Edited by deleted (Sat 31-Jul-10 19:25:01)

In reply to a post by Hatari:

Do we agree that the owner has the right to refuse access to any website.

As I understand it, and I must re-emphasise that I am not a lawyer, you can allow or refuse access to your site to whoever you please and for whatever reason you please.

As can any website owner.

MMM,i wonder what stalk stalk will do if a lot of popular web sites start to block their ip ranges for instance ,let's face it, it could happen "this site is a talk talk free zone"

In reply to a post by Hatari:

Do we agree that the owner has the right to refuse access to any website.

I agree if you own the site you should have the right to block anyone if you so wish, I dont know the first thing about setting up a web site but assume you as the admin must have tolls to block entry to anyone you dont want to view it, if this is the case why do these tools not block TT ?

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Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 31-Jul-10 20:31:31)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

if this is the case why do these tools not block whatever TT ?

TT use dynamic IPs, blocking the whole range would exclude all TT customers.