In reply to a post by Deputy_Dog:

On the contrary by continuously battling with every poster that remotely slights talktalk in anyway he draws attention to its failings more than if the posts were left to be disregarded by most of the forum readers. He has also helped to give this forum a reputation that makes newcomers feel unwelcome.

I don't believe in ignoring posts which are clearly wrong, you are doing any good for newcomers who want an opinion from those who actually use TT. If you see a post which is obviously intended to be misleading, why not correct it?

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by Deputy_Dog:

On the contrary by continuously battling with every poster that remotely slights talktalk in anyway he draws attention to its failings more than if the posts were left to be disregarded by most of the forum readers. He has also helped to give this forum a reputation that makes newcomers feel unwelcome.

I don't believe in ignoring posts which are clearly wrong, you are doing any good for newcomers who want an opinion from those who actually use TT. If you see a post which is obviously intended to be misleading, why not correct it?

At the risk of sounding childish I say spot on Batboy the problem is if you do you are accused of being a fanboy, lying or worse.
and up pops another post proving my point - http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/talktalk/t/3966447-...

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 12-Feb-11 17:30:31)

As a relative newbie here I have found Jack Hack has become a pain in the butt. Any criticism of TT and he's off on his hobbyhorse leaving a trail of whatever comes out the rear end. The mods have been very tolerant but I now skip posts which have TT in the heading as they contain the same boring diatribes against anyone who posts aspersion on TT.

This from someone who was quite satisfied with TT group until they cut me off without warning. My friends and relatives who were with TT have changed ISP because their evening speeds became so slow due to contention (Like me, light users, 4-8 gb/month.

All ISPs have problems, some fix them better than others. Now with BT I have had problems but received excellent advice and service, though I know many posters here are unhappy. But on a positive note ... my TT compensation cheque arrived two days ago after only three reminders and one formal notice of court action !

In reply to a post by Malwaremike:

As a relative newbie here I have found Jack Hack has become a pain in the butt. Any criticism of TT and he's off on his hobbyhorse leaving a trail of whatever comes out the rear end. The mods have been very tolerant but I now skip posts which have TT in the heading as they contain the same boring diatribes against anyone who posts aspersion on TT.

This from someone who was quite satisfied with TT group until they cut me off without warning.

Hardly an unbiased opinion then.

My post was neither biased nor unbiased. It was a statement of fact: I was satisfied until they cut me off.

This is exactly the point I was making. It's impossible to make a comment about TT without some self-appointed defender hopping onto his/her hobbyhorse.

This is enough. I'm bored and I'm off to another thread.

In reply to a post by Malwaremike:

As a relative newbie here I have found Jack Hack has become a pain in the butt. Any criticism of TT and he's off on his hobbyhorse leaving a trail of whatever comes out the rear end.

Would you care to show all the examples you refer to?

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by Deputy_Dog:

On the contrary by continuously battling with every poster that remotely slights talktalk in anyway he draws attention to its failings more than if the posts were left to be disregarded by most of the forum readers. He has also helped to give this forum a reputation that makes newcomers feel unwelcome.

I don't believe in ignoring posts which are clearly wrong, you are doing any good for newcomers who want an opinion from those who actually use TT. If you see a post which is obviously intended to be misleading, why not correct it?

Spot on Batboy the problem is if you do you are accused of being a fanboy, lying or worse.

Fanboy or not you do come across as one, as you will not accept talk talks failings, even though some of them have been publicised of national TV. my opinion of them is that they too are similar to tiscali in some ways, such as standards of support, price, even the full llu trap , and in my honest opinion i personally would not recommend any isp who operates in that way, i could go on but wont do

In reply to a post by Malwaremike:

My post was neither biased nor unbiased. It was a statement of fact: I was satisfied until they cut me off.

This is exactly the point I was making. It's impossible to make a comment about TT without some self-appointed defender hopping onto his/her hobbyhorse.

In what way am I defending them?

In reply to a post by tommy45:

Fanboy or not you do come across as one, as you will not accept talk talks failings, even though some of them have been publicised of national TV. my opinion of them is that they too are similar to tiscali in some ways, such as standards of support, price, even the full llu trap , and in my honest opinion i personally would not recommend any isp who operates in that way, i could go on but wont do

But that's not the point. The point is regarding those who make false and misleading accusations against TT in an attempt to dissuade new users from signing up, in order to spite them. This hurts nobody except the new users looking for honest opinion.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by tommy45:

Fanboy or not you do come across as one, as you will not accept talk talks failings, even though some of them have been publicised of national TV. my opinion of them is that they too are similar to tiscali in some ways, such as standards of support, price, even the full llu trap , and in my honest opinion i personally would not recommend any isp who operates in that way, i could go on but wont do

But that's not the point. The point is regarding those who make false and misleading accusations against TT in an attempt to dissuade new users from signing up, in order to spite them. This hurts nobody except the new users looking for honest opinion.

There are a few, but on the other hand Jack still defends talktalk on stuff that hasn't been posted just to spite talktalk,,or he just likes to argue &wind people up as it comes across that way ,And from reading some of the negative posts the poster has valid grievances against talktalk,

Edited by tommy45 (Sat 12-Feb-11 17:53:55)