If you aren't that bothered about the catch up services (apart from iPlayer), a much better option is the Humax HDR-Fox T2

I had a Foxsat box (not HD) before i moved to Sky and was impressed with the SD picture quality, I might have a look at the latest HD versions as i now have the twin feed from the dish that would allow me to get the most out of the box.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

I had a Foxsat box (not HD) before i moved to Sky and was impressed with the SD picture quality, I might have a look at the latest HD versions as i now have the twin feed from the dish that would allow me to get the most out of the box.

The Humax Foxsat HDR is a great unit.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

If you aren't that bothered about the catch up services (apart from iPlayer), a much better option is the Humax HDR-Fox T2

I had a Foxsat box (not HD) before i moved to Sky and was impressed with the SD picture quality, I might have a look at the latest HD versions as i now have the twin feed from the dish that would allow me to get the most out of the box.

But SD on Dsat is not much better if any better than Sd on Freeview. Our digital TV system be it via Dsat or terrestrial is to be honest awful. Even Hd is not that great.

The problem is now people are so used to it and forgot what the picture quality was like with analogue, which was better than the digital system

I use netflix for 99% of my video entertainment now, i don't have a TV licence, the other one percent i get via DVd/Blu-ray and most of the stuff on Netflix have a better picture quality than our TV system

have used freeview in 4 different areas using 2 different set-top boxes, a 2007 PC card and a 2012 freeviewHD PC card. Also have used old skybox to view freesat, and spend some time with SkyHD box also.

freesat via old skybox was pretty poor on alot of channels, plus at the time (maybe now aswell) it was missing Dave. The main channels were ok but not hugely different to the main channels via my Blackgold Freeview PC card. However, those same channels via the set-top boxes were worse.
The SD channels via my new blackgold DVB-T2 card are better than with the 2007 card.
FreeviewHD compares well with skyHD, though only 3.5 HD channels on FreeviewHD presently.
Our 2012 TV SD tuner and 200hz panel was loads better than the 50hz offerings. This TV I think does some extra stuff to make the SD stuff a bit better also, but the PC card via HDMI seems very similar.

My main points are: like with hi-fi the quality of the output given the same input can vary considerably due to the decoding/display hardware.

Newer hardware is likely to give better picture than older hardware for the same inputs.

The Humax Foxsat HDR is a great unit.

I will give that one a look.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

I will give that one a look.

Hold on a bit longer and you could get the latest:

http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/freesat/

If it's as good as the Foxsat HDR it will be a winner.

AS a customer of Talk Talk, in a situation approx under 2 miles from the Exchange, They cannot reliably deliver 1.75 Mbps (Currently 1.0 !)
If you are already getting a good download speed they should be OK!
The problems start when you have to phone "Customer Support"!

In reply to a post by scottie4642:

AS a customer of Talk Talk, in a situation approx under 2 miles from the Exchange, They cannot reliably deliver 1.75 Mbps (Currently 1.0 !)
If you are already getting a good download speed they should be OK!
The problems start when you have to phone "Customer Support"!

I get this all the time - http://www.speedtest.net/result/2248007043.png

Edit to add -

@Oliver341 that box looks the dogs gangly bits.


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Edited by Jack_Hackett (Wed 17-Oct-12 18:03:32)