Oh please

In reply to a post by Leki:

a lot of what you did say was made up responses to things i didn't say or straw man arguments

it had very little to do with what you posted it was what you did not post that i took real issue with .but the thread is here for all to read , even the bit where you tell me that Be*

charge pretty much the same amount

is why im not reading all of what you post , as its nonsense .

@woweebert

I clearly stated above how it is pretty much the same amount, here is will post it again to help you:

"The fact is that with both company's current phone line, calls and broadband package (with half price for 12 month offers) the price of talktalk is £18.20 and Bethere is £19.50 a month, wow a £1.30 price difference between budget and premium. So no there really is no excuse as to why talktalk are so bad in comparison when paying nearly the same amount."

So yes that is there in the thread for everyone to read and check up on, so it is clearly not nonsense.

In reply to a post by Leki:

the price of talktalk is £18.20 and Bethere is £19.50 a month, wow a £1.30 price difference between budget and premium

You're comparing BE's 10 Mbps capped product to TalkTalk's product with uncapped speeds.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

You're comparing BE's 10 Mbps capped product to TalkTalk's product with uncapped speeds.

but woweebert would still class it as "premium" as its from BE, It is actually a 12Mbps capped product and is not throttled like talktalk.

In my case since on my line i cant get over 10Mbps on adsl, choosing that option with BE would give me better faster internet and much better customer service than going with TT. Also since the average adsl speed in UK homes is well below the 12Mbps cap that would also be the case for the majority of people going for adsl.

In reply to a post by Leki:

but woweebert would still class it as "premium" as its from BE, It is actually a 12Mbps capped product and is not throttled like talktalk.

BE website states it's 10 Mbps.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

BE website states it's 10 Mbps.

That's just Be conforming to ASA, as you well know!

It means that at least 10% users get >= 10 Meg, but they can't all be on 10 exactly. So some of them are faster.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

It means that at least 10% users get >= 10 Meg, but they can't all be on 10 exactly. So some of them are faster.

Yes indeed they are, but not when they're on a package capped at 10 Mbps, which BE Value is...

Explain this then (taken from Be Order Form):

* BE Value £17.00 Our basic package, good for value seekers or those who can't get more than 12meg.
o BE Unlimited £22.00 Our most popular package offering up to 24meg.
o BE Pro £27.00 The perfect upgrade if you work from home or if you like to game, as our incredible upload speeds will get the job done fast.

The 10 Meg headline speed is simply obeying ASA.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Explain this then

I thought that if 10% of users could get 16 meg (allowing them to advertise it as such) then definitely 10% of users could get 12 meg, allowing them to advertise it without being ASA-reduced.

Edited by Oliver341 (Tue 05-Mar-13 01:19:19)

Apples and Oranges AGAIN and as somebody has already pointed out it is yet another unfair comparison by your self .

I might be so bold as to say , TalkTalk Essential is more comparable to Be* Pro than Be* Value but i wont , as i know Be* service is allot better than TalkTalk and that shows in what it costs .

But its not me trying to make the comparison .

Also im seeing holes in your arguments , you say you where connected on Be* Value but had access to the customer portal where you can change your lines profile , i was always under the impression this was only a feature for the more expensive Be* plans and not something you could do on Be* Value . I admit this may well of changed , as im not a Be* customer i would not know if it had changed .

But hay , i Have checked the Be* website .

Members on Be Pro and Be Unlimited can change to fastpath via the gaming mode setting in their member centre or by contacting our technical support via the ticketing system. Members on Be value cannot switch to fastpath.

Now we clearly sore stats for a line on a FastPath profile but here you say

In reply to a post by Leki:

In my case since on my line i cant get over 10Mbps on adsl, choosing that option with BE would give me better faster internet and much better customer service than going with TT. Also since the average adsl speed in UK homes is well below the 12Mbps cap that would also be the case for the majority of people going for adsl.

Is somebody telling fibs ? or is this as i have always said " a unfair comparison " as a Be* Unlimited line is allot more expensive and if that's the line you had with Be* that is the line and cost you should be comparing .

Edited by deleted (Tue 05-Mar-13 02:22:57)