After reading TBB front page this whole thread is even more pointless , as anybody advising any one to sign up with Be* on the news Sky have just brought them out .

Should be shot

The end of another good ISP

Edited by deleted (Tue 05-Mar-13 02:43:58)

@woweebert

The only holes you see in my arguments are in your imagination or ones you make up yourself as i have never said that i was connected on Be* Value.

what fibs? Let me try to simplify this for you. Lets pretend i sell my house and some average person moves in who wants a phone line, calls and internet like most people do. Since the line can only support upto 9Mbit if they went with Be Value they would only pay £1.30 more than TalkTalk and have better faster internet and much better customer service. Why? as even with BE on the standard profile and interleaved datapath, Be were still faster than TalkTalk.

Edited by Leki (Tue 05-Mar-13 03:00:16)

More Apples and Oranges! This whole thread reeks of their scent

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

if 10% of users could get 16 meg (allowing them to advertise it as such)

If that is referring to the advertised speed of Unlimited and Pro, then you cannot just extrapolate that to Value.

The Value user base is a different population and, by it very nature, is biased towards those with longer lines and therefore slower speeds.

You simply cannot advertise a product by employing the characteristics of a diff product. That would be dishonest, to say the least.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

You simply cannot advertise a product by employing the characteristics of a diff product.

I agree. But the ASA ruling isn't purely about the characteristics of the product, it's about the characteristics of the lines of the customers on that product (or as I previously thought, the characteristics of the customers' lines over the ISP as a whole, ruling isn't crystal clear on this, although BE seem to have interpreted in the former way).

Essentially, if an ISP with a service which can supply 24 meg only for some reason attracts people with lines that can handle 6 meg, the ISP will be forced to advertise it as 6 meg max, which just goes to show how silly (and in fact misleading to potential customers) this ruling is.