HG612 and upload speed.

Hi.
I've noticed an odd occurance regarding upload speed.
Before the 13th of Jan I was getting a healthy 18-18.5Mbit upload on TBB speedtest or speedtest.net
I noticed a connection drop @ 1.30am on the 13th and since then...upload has barely got past 17Mbit as can be seen in the below pic.

http://i.imgur.com/gUP1EdN.png

Ok, I know that 1-1.5Mbit when you still get 17 isn't a huge amound but I thought it odd. So on saturday I decided to unlock the HG612 to have a look at my linestats (latest pastebin'd below) which also had the great side effect of being able to turn the LEDs on the modem off Thanks Huawei! Anyways, looking at the linestats confused me even more on the issue. Looking at it my connection should be going like the clappers but there's that odd drop of 1-1.5Mbit upload actual throughput where sync has stayed maxed.

http://pastebin.com/xvrQ911b

So on a whim (and based on a suggestion by RobertoS) I turned off QoS on the modem. Suddenly the upload is back to where it was before and more.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/14215...

Which again strikes me as odd. I'd have thought QoS would have always been active on the modem since install and that option wouldn't change, I can't imagine QoS suddenly taking effect after a week of service? I can't however find any other explanation for the spiriting away of 1-1.5Mbit upload throughput. Trying to figure it out I've tried a second PC running Intel rather than Realtek NIC, I've tried a Billion 7800N to rule out my new Asus router (as well as turning NAT acceleration off on the Asus), I've connected my PC directly to the 7800N to rule out my Netgear GS108 switch that I always use...and it all had the same results.

So other than QoS I cannot seem to figure out where the loss of upload came from other than QoS but that doesnt make sense to affect it after a full week.

Any ideas?

*Edit*
One thing I have noticed on the stats is the high RS value on the upload with 0 on the download. Would that contribute to a reduction of upload throughput? RSCorr on the upload is currently 97 after about 23 hours which doesnt seem excessive itself.

Counters
Path 0
OHF: 48326041 3224744
OHFErr: 24 23
RS: 0 3443396
RSCorr: 0 97
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Edited by NBK (Sun 18-Jan-15 11:38:33)

Maybe when Openreach introduced G.INP?

Ahhhh! (And Aargh!)

Is the 13th when you think G.INP was implemented, and widely? The reason I ask, off topic but close, is that about 01:30 on the 13th my latency went up for no apparent reason, no re-sync, by 3-4ms and has remained steady as a rock since.

Unlike what is reported in this post I don't have the G.INP Bearer 1 data showing. That I think is a Billion VDSL Router of some sort whereas I'm on an HG612.

So you had something happen @ 1.30 for no reason on the 13th, the exact same time I lost 1-1.5Mbit on my upload...I lost connections but the router and modem didnt...that's very strange

That's why I said it was close to the topic . I haven't been monitoring speed unfortunately.

I'd just be curious to see if your current TBB test matches your signature...
Also I think you're in the same general area as me so that might be where a coincidence occurs (although I'm a northerner and I think you're a southerner? )

Just rebooted the HG612 modem to see if there was any change to the information displayed. There isn't, apart from the expected small changes to the connection stats. I've gone from 57095/14832 to 56459/14996. Considering the time of day and that my downstream noise margin went from 5.9dB to 6.3dB that looks like no change. I'll do it again nearer mid-day if I remember.

I keep a check on my sync - unchanged for 57 days or something until between my two posts previous to this one.

Seemingly though sync speed isn't causing the change since mine maxed out yet throughput mysteriously dropped...I reckon I could have possibly been in the 19's if I'd turned off QoS before tuesday

My latency has dropped a few ms, but I expect that is due to the change of Plusnet Gateway from ptw-ag03 to pcl-ag02. The ptw range are always a bit high latency for me.

Where do you class "northerner" begins?

i'm on ptn-bg02 which apparently has 38k current users and I get better performance on it than gateways with 30k...oh well

And north clearly begins with north Manchester

Hazel Grove - 11 miles south of Manchester.

Speed test result just done, wired. I don't think I've lost anything, but again - to know that you have to log sync speed against the results.

Aye stocky...like I said, southerner

Upload looks a little low tbh for your sync.
If you make an account on the TBB homepage and stay logged in it keeps a record of all your speed tests and even plots a graph!
Worth doing...in my view anyway

Edited by NBK (Sun 18-Jan-15 16:33:12)

My results list has over 1,170 entries, starting with 27/04/07 08:21 Fri 1219 Kbps 376 Kbps

I bet I can suck eggs better than you. My grandmother taught me.

Crikey that's a lot of tests.
I didn't bother having anything logged at all on ADSL since my speeds were pretty stable...well, on Be anyway, poor upload on Sky. Any speed tests results prior to the 13th that show upload?

Also I'm not a fan of eggs so enjoy

Most of my tests are wireless, and that has always been a very variable feast until I got the ASUS. Also as I said you need to include the sync speed when comparing speed tests, and mine has varied quite a bit for various reasons.

*Post heavily edited*
Now that I'm awake and I've read a wee bit it's probably updated to the most recent firmware, sigh.
Also looks like error rates on this latest firmware are increased?
Ho hum...

Edited by NBK (Tue 20-Jan-15 10:03:49)

Umm yeah error rates seem up on the latest firmware...
FEC count is way higher too...
http://pastebin.com/JJ6QuxJ2
Should i stick with the most up to date firmware or downgrade to the older SP10 unlocked firmware and kill BT agent?

Pass, sorry . Dunno.

I flashed to the latest unlocked SP08 firmware and have noticed my upload sync is @ 15.35 but with the BT HH5 it's @ 17.89. So technically I'm losing 2mb of my upload on the HG612.

I took off QoS as well but should I consider trying the older SP10 and kill BT agent via Telenet as the SP08 is disabled by default in the WAN options?

Edited by deleted (Thu 19-Feb-15 18:19:44)

Mine is V100R001C01B030SP08 software
with A2pv6C038m.d24j firmware.

I believe those are the best at the moment. Are yours the same, as there are a few around.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Mine is V100R001C01B030SP08 software
with A2pv6C038m.d24j firmware.

I believe those are the best at the moment. Are yours the same, as there are a few around.

Yep here is a copy and paste:

Hardware version VER.B
Software version V100R001C01B030SP08
Firmware version A2pv6C038m.d24j

Do you get lower upload syncs with this? Been trying to find an answer and no such luck yet.

It's setup via a Bridged PPPOE on the HG612S using a Netgear N900 Router

I haven't got any VDSL modem/routers. But my speeds are fine - see my sig.